Wow, I'm gone for 3 days and more misinformation being spread. OK, here it goes...I'll start with the "correct me if I'm wrong" by Daytona flyer
ALPA on the other hand unsucessfully allowed management to lay off thousands of pilots and airport employees without a single payment
Neither of the statments on either side of the "and" are true. 1) Laid off pilots did get some "payments," at least at UAL and 2) UA laid off 2,172 pilots. ALPA is not management and cannot necessarily control what actions management takes when they run the company on behalf of their shareholders, assuming it's legal, of course.
....while simultaneously allowing them to take millions of dollars in wages and retirement funds...
I assume the "them" you refer to is the PBGC? The pensions at UAL were underfunded by ERISA guidelines and were seized by the PBGC. What should ALPA have done to stop the PBGC from seizing our underfunded pensions, or illegally underfunded pensions of any ALPA represented airline? Is ALPA above the law? Did ALPA fail because they didn't try to break the law?
After all this, they also allowed management to take millions of dollars in bonuses.
ALPA doesn't control executive compensation- the company's board does through the compensation committee here at UAL and many other publicly held companies for that matter. You act as if executive compensation is a failure of ALPA. Could you explain to me, keeping in mind UA's corporate governance structure, how ALPA "allowed" management to take millions of dollars in bonuses?
Now ALPA was successful in HELPING cut the equity grab UA management tried when we exited bankruptcy. Is that what you're talking about, because frankly I'm not sure how you think any union can "control" executive compensation at any publicly held company?
You seem to be shooting from the hip in this entire post? I think you depend upon flightinfo.com for your "factual" information, and it shows with posts like this.