Alaska TA is out. Pay Rates.

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Advice to the Alaska pilots - if you merge with another airline and Bloch is your arbitrator for SLI - make sure your airline's color on your arbitration presentation is pink. Bloch really likes pink and will say that there is not enough of that color at the top of the list a decade from now and will make adjustments to see enough of his favorite color near the top of the list.

It does not matter that you fly mostly 737's. NWA's DC9 pilots on furlough bypass were slotted in with 767 lineholders in some of Delta's senior bases.

It is not about status quo - no - it is all about the color, pink.

Might I suggest the color "Salmon" for the Alaska pilots. The most recent SLI looked like a whole shoal had spawned on the list, but were out of mojo by the time they got to the back of the list.

Whatever happens, status quo aint got nothing to do with it.

Only joking - sorta.

 

[densoo]

It isn't just about pay rates. Work rules! Rigs, soft time, pay clock starts whether door is closed or not, can effectively equal a pay increase. Oh, for just a few work rules other than FARs.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

I can't find anything pertaining to the furlough grievances either. I did notice however, that the new TA replaces the word "prevent" from the first sentence of the current section 23 with the word "mitigate." This is weaker language. The new TA still says that they have to post how long the furlough is going to be. Still no answer on that from the MEC yet....

You've got your answer, don't you? The Section 23 grievance is dead if this is voted in. No making whole, no back pay and back to work.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Yeah I think that their 73 rates are better than DAL's. Got to check though.

 

[XRMEFLYER]

Aren't AirTran's rates higher?

APC is down, can't cross check.

More importantly, what did they do with scope?

FO rates are not even in the same ballpark. Looks pretty good to me right about now.

But as someone pointed out, it's about much more than just payscales. Losing sight of the bigger picture in terms of scope and work rules can really diminish QOL.

 

[Going2Baja]

Overall the summary looks good to me. Would have like more $$$, but wouldn´t we all. The MEC voted to approve this TA, not nuetral like the last. I´ll wait for the roadshow and the full language, but for now it looks like a "yes" from me.

I´m predicting 71%+ in favor.

Baja.

 

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Hourly Rates Effective 4/1/09
Years of
Service
Captain
First Officer
0 to 1 $145.87 $45.54
1 to 2 $146.87 $71.75
2 to 3 $148.32 $84.92
3 to 4 $149.78 $93.26
4 to 5 $151.19 $99.67
5 to 6 $152.71 $102.26
6 to 7 $154.55 $104.10
7 to 8 $157.84 $105.97
8 to 9 $161.28 $108.29
9 to 10 $165.92 $111.60
10 to 11 $168.43 $113.08
11 to 12 $172.00 $115.60

Delta CA/FO (2009 numbers):

1. 148/52
2. 149/80
3. 150/93
4. 151/96
5. 153/98
6. 154/100
7. 155/103
8. 156/105
9. 157/107
10. 159/108
11. 160/109
12. 161/110

 

[husker]

Whats the monthly guarntee for rsv/lineholders?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

For DAL 70 rsv, and 65 for a line holder.

 

[husker]

Thank you ACL. How about at Alaska?

 

[AKMD80GUY]

Currently ALK is 76 for reserves, 75 for line holders. Summary says for long call (11 hours) 75 hours, short call (2 hours) 79 hours. It didn't say but I imagine line holders will remain at 75 hours.

 

[Beaver_Liquors]

Does anyone want to post the summary on here or is it just too long? Thanks

BL

 

[dashtrash]

26 more furloughs and 26 more downgrades if this passes. It allows line holders to trade up to 90 hours instead of 85. Figure up to 400 do it X 5 hours. 2000 extra hours a month covered by the pilots devide by 75 hour reserve pilot equals 26.

imo

 

[AKMD80GUY]

Fellow pilots and family members,
Attached is an executive style summary of the Tentative Agreement that has now been posted
electronically on the MEC Web site and will soon be mailed out for membership review and
ratification. Although fairly lengthy and detailed, the summary is not intended to be a substitute
for the TA, but rather an expeditious and accurate means of explaining the many substantive
changes negotiated in this new agreement.
In order to get the best appreciation for the differences between our current CBA and this
Tentative Agreement, we recommend you first review the summary for an overview of the major
highlights. When you next read through the TA, please make note of any questions and reserve
those questions so that they may be addressed at our many planned roadshows and Q&A
sessions. We have been working diligently to correct any small clerical, punctuation and
grammar errors, and will continue to do so, but we wanted to get the TA out to you as quickly as
possible even if a few of these types of errors have not yet been corrected.
While this TA reflects the majority of the content you will be evaluating during the ratification
phase, we should also note that some other important issues will also be resolved as part of that
process:
An issue of major interest that is not addressed in the new agreement, but nevertheless is a very
important item, is the topic of a signing bonus or retroactive pay. As part of ratification of the
agreement, a sum of up to approximately $13,500 will be distributed to most pilots upon
approval of the TA. The methodology supporting the lump sum is based on giving full credit for
any month worked since May 1, 2007. Retired pilots’ sums were calculated at half of that
amount to reflect retroactive pay only. Further details of the distribution will be addressed and a
full explanation of the rationale behind the distribution will be covered thoroughly as part of the
road shows. Additionally, we should emphasize that this TA has an effective date of April 1​

st.
Therefore, irrespective of any ratification date, pilots’ pay will reflect the new pay rates and will
be back dated to April 1st.
With regards to the outstanding grievances, should the agreement be approved by the
membership, it will close out a number of outstanding grievances that are addressed through new
contractual language. There would also be a renewed effort to favorably and collaboratively
resolve as many additional grievances on the books as possible. The recent grievances
concerning furloughed pilots and the implementation of Row 44 are included. In this way, we
may start a new contract with new work rules as cleanly as possible.
We would like to take the opportunity one more time to thank you for your trust, your patience,
and your support. This Tentative Agreement reflects our unwavering commitment to our four
cornerstones, and we are very pleased to be able to present this for your review.​

Tentative Agreement Summary​

This summary is an accompanying document to the completed sections of the Tentative
Agreement (TA) and illustrates the highlights. Sections where no changes were sought by either
party are annotated accordingly. A full reading of each section of the Tentative Agreement is
required to fully understand all of the changes and to evaluate the TA as a whole.​

Section 1 (Scope)​

Negotiated increased protections in the event that Alaska Airlines or Alaska Air Group is purchased by
another entity.
A memorandum of understanding was agreed to which says that none of the proposals exchanged by
either party during negotiations regarding section 1 will be admissible in any future legal proceedings​

Section 2 (Definitions)​

See underlined changes in TA document.​

Section 3 (Compensation)​

Negotiated the following percentage pay increases
Captains receive an 11.84% pay increase on the effective date with step increases of 1.5%, 1.5%, and
1.8%.
First officers receive increases on the effective date ranging from 16.35% to 29.52% with annual
increases of 1.5%, 1.5%, and 1.8%.
Hourly Rates Effective 4/1/09​

Years of
Service
Captain
First Officer​

0 to 1 $145.87 $45.54
1 to 2 $146.87 $71.75
2 to 3 $148.32 $84.92
3 to 4 $149.78 $93.26
4 to 5 $151.19 $99.67
5 to 6 $152.71 $102.26
6 to 7 $154.55 $104.10
7 to 8 $157.84 $105.97
8 to 9 $161.28 $108.29
9 to 10 $165.92 $111.60
10 to 11 $168.43 $113.08
11 to 12 $172.00 $115.60​

Percentage

 

[AKMD80GUY]

Percentage Pay Increases​

1​

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‐Apr‐09 Cumulative​

Captain​

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FO Captain FO​

11.84%​

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29.52% 17.31% 35.85%​

11.84%​

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16.35% 17.31% 22.04%​

11.84%​

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16.35% 17.31% 22.04%​

11.84%​

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16.36% 17.31% 22.04%​

11.84%​

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16.36% 17.31% 22.04%​

11.84%​

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16.35% 17.31% 22.04%​

11.84%​

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16.35% 17.31% 22.04%​

11.84%​

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16.36% 17.31% 22.04%​

11.84%​

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16.35% 17.31% 22.04%​

11.84%​

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17.86% 17.31% 23.62%​

11.84%​

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17.86% 17.31% 23.62%​

11.84%​

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19.39% 17.31% 25.22%​

Negotiated the following increases to override pay and captured ETOPS/International flying for the
purposes of override pay.​

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Capt. $5.00 per hour​

• FO $4.00 per hour