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Mookie said:
Anyone have an over/under of how bad C.M. is going to screw up this bid???

Mookie
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She has never replied to ANY emails and the times I've called her to follow up I can't understand what she's saying. There's a 6 figure salary they could add to their savings.

Fingers crossed. BTW - I hear the Co called an 'emergency' ALPA meeting for Oct 1. Must be re: the furlough notices going out.

Baja.
 
funny...I emailed her the other day, and she got back to me in 6 hrs. not that I liked her answer, but I did get a reply.

u work for Alaska right? just wondering why you are so interested in the Delta stuff. if you are waiting for a class there, why not take a leave from here so someone else gets to keep their job??

Mookie
 
Going2Baja said:
BTW - I hear the Co called an 'emergency' ALPA meeting for Oct 1. Must be re: the furlough notices going out.
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Its about the ALK/HAL, ALK/AAI, or ALK/SWA merger. Choose your favorite rumored player.
 
I like ALK/HAL! Lock up the west coast, Alaska and Hawaii. I just wonder what the love child of the Eskimo and Island girl would look like.
 
Latest intel I got on early outs is 81 applications so far. Let's just say up to half of those are fishing. Still, looks like a good number will retire early.

Of course, we'll have accurate information by the end of next week.
 
Baze said:
Latest intel I got on early outs is 81 applications so far. Let's just say up to half of those are fishing. Still, looks like a good number will retire early.

Of course, we'll have accurate information by the end of next week.
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Baze-

Thanks for the update.

However, I have resigned to the fact that the number of folks that take the early outs or LOAs is completely irrelevant. Management is hellbent on furloughing....hence the floating numbers. The "total" number of pilots that they claim they need to let go will just coincidentally be 30 more, or 50 more, or 75 more than those whom took the early-outs or LOAs after the lines have been adjusted for min block.

Wish me luck-

ZP
 
Hey Z,

Hang in there. I'm sure you've been looking for another job. Good luck on the employment front. If you find something good, don't hesitate to pass the info on. :)

I'm hoping to find something in the next few months. I've been looking at some non-flying jobs. If I find something and I'm not furloughed, I'd go ahead and try to take an ELOA and go work that other job for a while.
 
Don't get me wrong, VSA can be a good thing in good times and bad.

When times are good, I wouldn't care at all if someone was picking up VSA.

When times are bad, however, it can and should be used by this pilot group as leverage. Unfortunately, we have a good number of very short-sighted individuals among our ranks.

When you pick up VSA, while pilots are on furlough, you're no better than a scab.
 
Here's where I get confused.....

If we know how many block hours there are going to be, and we know what bases are flying which trips - how difficult is it to figure how many lines per base?

Baja.
 
Going2Baja said:
Here's where I get confused.....

If we know how many block hours there are going to be, and we know what bases are flying which trips - how difficult is it to figure how many lines per base?

Baja.
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Ah, there you go using logic and math to figure out a problem that isn't remotely related to, uh logic or math. . .


 
What do you want to bet less than 1/4 are really interested in the program? That said, I'm with you hoping that ALL 100+ are serious candidates.
 
maybe but...

I'm guessing that there were already a good number of retirement eligible 60+ ers that were on the fence and this one put them over. I'm also willing to bet that there are several well educated young men and women that were/are able to find another job paying them just as much $$ and they are willing to depart the pattern for a year or two to let the dust settle.

I just started a mil leave for 4 years and the part that made it easy was the furlough threat. I am not one of those to be furloughed but hopefully my departure will save some kid's mac n cheese dinner.
 
av8instyle said:
I'm guessing that there were already a good number of retirement eligible 60+ ers that were on the fence and this one put them over. I'm also willing to bet that there are several well educated young men and women that were/are able to find another job paying them just as much $$ and they are willing to depart the pattern for a year or two to let the dust settle.

I just started a mil leave for 4 years and the part that made it easy was the furlough threat. I am not one of those to be furloughed but hopefully my departure will save some kid's mac n cheese dinner.
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Where did you find the 4 year gig? I am just hoping for 6 months.
 
I know several of our F/Os who went back on active duty and made more money than they would flogging the Superhen around the system.
 
Fubijaakr said:
I know several of our F/Os who went back on active duty and made more money than they would flogging the Superhen around the system.
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Yeah, it really depends on the situation. I'm on 8 yr pay so I do a little better with the military, but I do sacrifice lifestyle a little as I have a lot less days off in military so it's about a wash.
 
Just got the latest MEC release.

It looks like we have some time until we hit the street. I think it would take at least two weeks to come to an agreement on furlough mitigation, then we would need 30 days notice.
 
After talking to my f/o rep - I'll predict no furloughs. Early outs are close to 100 - there are plans in motion for line sharing, individual reduced block hours etc. If the Co actually gives a # to furlough then we can enact reduced block hours co wide. I think this is all about paying the big $$ at the top end and holding the junior pilots hostage.

Just my $0.02

Good luck to all of us and thanks to those of you that took the early-out and extended leaves!

Baja.
 
I heard through the grapevine that a captain said he was denied early out because they stopped the early outs at 75 people:mad:
 
I'd be surprised if the company could have already crunched all the numbers in 3 days, contacted everyone, and gotten a firm answer from them.

I'd also be surprised of more than 75 pilots would be really interested in taking the early out. Heck, I'd be surprised if more than 30 would actually consider bailing early.

QCappy said:
I heard through the grapevine that a captain said he was denied early out because they stopped the early outs at 75 people:mad:
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