Airtran's $25 jumpseat policy

[jimcav]

Hey Seahorse, just try pulling that disrespectful crap on my airplane and see if I don't throw your ass off. I've been down that road many times before and will say something. A few times while saying goodbye to pax I've noticed a pilot in uniform get off. As I would nod or say goodbye the guy/gal completely ignored me. As I followed them out the door I'd ask if they bought a ticket and the response was no. Then I would explain how things are supposed to work and believe it or not a couple of these people gave me attitude. So, by all means come on down and play your little game and see if I or one of my compadres don't leave you behind. By the way I don't like the 25$ policy either but it still beats the alternative. I've had a few nights when I wished a few other airlines had the same policy. I would have made it home to the wife and kids, and afterall, it's only 25$. That being said I hope the company gets rid of it.

 

[Salty Pirate]

Not since you closed DFW . . . . .



I take the high road when I load up my plane with Delta pilots after being turned away from a Delta flight because some other OAL pilot got there first.

I would gladly pay $25 bucks to get home rather than pay $40. to the Wellesley to spend the night after being turned away at Delta, Chief. And the $25. is a non-rev pass available only to OAL pilots. If I use a Delta buddy pass, it costs money . . . yet is still considered non-revving.

Maybe you ought to think these things through before you make these assinine posts.

Last time I checked at correct me if I am wrong genius, but a buddy pass is considered a YIELD FARE. Not non-rev. If you take money at the gate that is considered revenue........I repeat REVENUE.........How more clear could it be. Maybe you ought to think things out before you post. Also when did I get hostile during my post, I had an honest question about a policy that I was unfamiliar with so I posted a question on an information forum.....IMAGINE THAT....Get a clue and do what you can to get rid of this worthless policy.

 

[twepilot]

Ok I'll bite...whats a "yield fare?" Maybe I'll learn something...but I doubt it.

RV

 

[FLB717]

Salty,
Are you one of those 135 guys who plays Airline Pilot to get a jumpseat that you can never return the same even for $25 bucks?

 

[Jim Smyth]

Jim Smyth, i'll add a disclaimer to my previous statement. This was pre-9/11 times, so things might have changed since then. I haven't jumpseated on SWA since '99.

Well this morning I went in and talked to our assistant Chief Pilot about this issue. He said he never heard of any Pilot having to pay for a Jumpseat on SWA. I then asked a half dozen Pilots in the lounge, 3 ops agents, 3 gate agents and we had a very senior flight attendant crew today. Nobody had ever heard of anyone having to pay for a Pilot Jumpseat on SWA. What the concenses was is that if you paid $25 you probably bought a pass and used that because we never charge for Jumpseats.

Its obvious that the Airtran guys dont like this policy. Hopefully down the road it can be a negociated item. SWA now has 12 out of 97 airlines on our Jumpseat list with unlimited Jumpseat capabilty and Airtran would be another good addition to that list.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

When a non rev ticket is paid for, usually 100% of the taxes/fees must also be paid. How does that tie into FL's $25 jumpseat? IOW what is it really?

Is it $25 to jumpseat but its really non rev-ing? Then can any airline employee do the same? Will FL let a UAL gate agent or AMR ramper walk up and pay $25?

If it is limited to Off Line pilots only and taxes/fees aren't being paid then FL management is selling "unlimited" jumpseats.....

 

[Salty Pirate]

Salty,
Are you one of those 135 guys who plays Airline Pilot to get a jumpseat that you can never return the same even for $25 bucks?

No I already stated who I worked for several times.

 

[Salty Pirate]

Ok I'll bite...whats a "yield fare?" Maybe I'll learn something...but I doubt it.



RV

A yield fare is a discounted ticket for friends and family, It is not non-revving and Delta makes a hell of a lot of money by selling empty seats.

 

[twepilot]

so then a yield fare is positive space?

RV

 

[twepilot]

I just re-read that post"Delta makes a hell of a lotta money" priceless...simply priceless

RV

 

[XRMEFLYER]

A yield fare is a discounted ticket for friends and family, It is not non-revving and Delta makes a hell of a lot of money by selling empty seats.

Call it what you want, it is still a better deal than most offer.

Why all the hostility man. It is what it is and getting into a pi$$ing match here with Airtran skippers about it is not likely to improve the situation anytime soon.

 

[FLB717]

Satly,
Hey I got if figured out. You flew boxes and after 9-11 with our 500hr 121 PIC req, you couldnt get hired so now you are at ASA, and still holding some anger towards the Citrones. Let it go, take a breath and wait, time will bring it all back around. And if it doesnt.....well suck for all of us.

 

[lifeguard]

Salty..better double check on those Delta buddy passes or any other airlines buddy passes. They may be "yield fares" and you may pay a lot of money for them but those travelling on them are still considered non revs and have to abide by the non rev rules.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

While I certainly wouldn't LIKE to fork over $25, it is a heck of a lot better than not getting a ride home or to work. If NWA would adopt this instead of giving LCC pilots a hard time or refusing us the jumpseat, I'd gladly pay the $25 just to get to or from work.

It's not like it is a day's pay or even an hour's pay. I envy you having a way to work on Airtran, they are great guys and gals, but a few gate agents need to be sent flowers or ??? Of course ALL carriers have a few tough grumpy gate agents. Can't blame them; they have one of if not the toughest customer service jobs there is.

This subject has been on this forum several times, the Airtran pilots hate the $25 policy as much or more than anyone else.

B6Guy

Actually it's more than an hour's pay for me... thankfully Comair doesn't charge to get me home.

 

[Capn Mike]

When a non rev ticket is paid for, usually 100% of the taxes/fees must also be paid. How does that tie into FL's $25 jumpseat? IOW what is it really?

Is it $25 to jumpseat but its really non rev-ing? Then can any airline employee do the same? Will FL let a UAL gate agent or AMR ramper walk up and pay $25?

If it is limited to Off Line pilots only and taxes/fees aren't being paid then FL management is selling "unlimited" jumpseats.....

The last time I was charged, I believe it was $28 which included $3 that the gate agent said were for taxes or fees.