AirTran to add 2,500 jobs in Georgia over 5 years

[bizicmo]

You would know why they require it.

 

[XRMEFLYER]

I don't get it. What makes a 121 pilot better then a 135 pilot? Thats basically what you are saying. If I am misreading you then I am sorry. But, that's how you are coming off when you say something like that.

It may be an insurance thing, or it may be a KG thing. Either way, it is the company policy not unlike the requirement that SWA has for the type. Does it make their pilots better able to succeed in training and ultimately fly the 73 the way they want them to? Maybe. Is it a requirement to get the job? Absolutely.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

I don't get it. What makes a 121 pilot better then a 135 pilot? Thats basically what you are saying. If I am misreading you then I am sorry. But, that's how you are coming off when you say something like that.

Didn't mean it that way...I am assuming the reason is because of short upgrades. Perhaps the bust rate is better among those with 121 backgrounds. Perhaps the company feels safer with both captain and FO having 121 experience. I honestly don't know. It has less to do with stick and rudder skills and more to do with decision making, etc. BTW, I flew 135 for awhile...it is a tougher gig than 121 is.

 

[Ty Webb]

Actually, the 91/135 guys hired in the last 5 years that I know (prior to the 121 requirement) all made it through newhire training and ALL passed Upgrade the first time, which you cannot say for the strictly 121 guys.

Personally, I think the requirement comes more from a lack of familiarity with the 91/135 world.

The large 135 operators and the frax are every bit as standardized and have just as high quality training as the 121 operators . . . and sometimes even more so, in my humble opinion.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

I'm sure Uppercrust will chime in and let us know the real reason. :laugh:

 

[Nocturnal1]

In the food for thought category---I've flown; military, charter ops (part 125 and 135 worldwide) and 121. By far the most challenging were charter ops. However with that said, in my opinion, most companies (121) feel that there is a wide variety of training/captain development on the 135 side vs. the 121 side and that they want you to have that 121 stink on you. For instance; 121 training requirements (core curriculum (sp?)) is more thorough because of FAA mandated sylabii. The charter side in my experience was more focused on aircraft specific ops rather than; CRM, aircraft security training, etc. Just a guess. Also, most airline have a Captain "charm" school that you must attend before upgrade.

 

[Ty Webb]

I'm sure Uppercrust will chime in and let us know the real reason. :laugh:

A legend in his own mind . . . . and King of his parent's basement.


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[B-J-J Fighter]

Just signing up to read Chuckes opinion.

 

[Uppercrust]

A legend in his own mind . . . . and King of his parent's basement.


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Nothing wrong with the basement. How's your iguana?:laugh:

 

[Ty Webb]

The only reptile I "own" is your Mom . . . . speaking of pets, how's the gerbil up your kiester?



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[Lear70]

You know, I'm just amazed that there hasn't been someone to ask KG about it yet. I asked SG about it a while back and she said that's just what she's been instructed to look for.

As far as domiciles go, I second the motion for BWI. I live in Nashville but there are a TON of flights every day from BNA to BWI, including a bunch on SWA. As it is now I just got bumped for the 3rd commute attempt in a row and had to drive... again. Costing me $200 a month more than I had planned on because I can't commute. Hell, open a base ANYWHERE that Southwest goes from BNA, even a virtual one!!

 

[Sig]

The only reptile I "own" is your Mom . . . . speaking of pets, how's the gerbil up your kiester?



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Great. ANOTHER wasted sip of beer! Two minutes of straight laughing... priceless.

 

[skystud25]

So does this mean the likelyhood of any other domiciles other than ATL are out of the question? Man, I sure wish they would decide to open a crew base a little closer to God's country - (KANSAS!)

Kansas is fly-over country, not God's Country. That would be Colorado.

 

[CapnVegetto]

Trust me, if they begin to have trouble finding pilots, they'll drop that requirement like a bad habit. However, the chances of that happening are not very good.

It's a frigging stupid requirement, everyone knows this. A corporate guy with 5000 hours of PIC time in a BBJ is less qualified than someone with 500 hours of PIC in a CapeAir 402. Insanely stupid. But what can we do? Perhaps one day KG will realize the stupidity of this and then number of very qualified applicants that they are missing out on.

BTW, I've done both too, and 121 flying is EASY. Way easier than 91 corporate and 135. It's not even close.

 

[CapnVegetto]

You would know why they require it.

If your profile is correct, it doesn't look like you've done jack schitt. Go back to pulling gear, junior.