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The way it reads is that the FOQA/ASAP/LOSA data is excluded from the normal CVR / FDR non-disciplinary clause, but there's 3 caveats:

1. It doesn't say it CAN or WILL be used for disciplinary data, just that it's not excluded.

2. The Letters of Agreement, according to the pilot who manages that program for the Association, for FOQA, ASAP, and LOSA are standalone, do not require re-ratification, and keep anyone from being disciplined based on them.

3. That data is de-identified by the NPA. The company can't even see who it is unless you DELIBERATELY did something unsafe, then you're on your own anyway (and should be).

I want this to die, but will be bluntly honest about what are and aren't facts in the T.A. Hope that helps...

Edit: Fireman beat me to it.
 
The way it reads is that the FOQA/ASAP/LOSA data is excluded from the normal CVR / FDR non-disciplinary clause, but there's 3 caveats:

1. It doesn't say it CAN or WILL be used for disciplinary data, just that it's not excluded.

2. The Letters of Agreement, according to the pilot who manages that program for the Association, for FOQA, ASAP, and LOSA are standalone, do not require re-ratification, and keep anyone from being disciplined based on them.

3. That data is de-identified by the NPA. The company can't even see who it is unless you DELIBERATELY did something unsafe, then you're on your own anyway (and should be).

I want this to die, but will be bluntly honest about what are and aren't facts in the T.A. Hope that helps...

Edit: Fireman beat me to it.


But your verbage is much better and you can spell.
 
3:45 pm on Friday... and the NPA website is down. Is anyone else having a probelm logging on or is it just me? I was hoping to download the TA so I could smell this sewage for myself....
 
3:45 pm on Friday... and the NPA website is down. Is anyone else having a probelm logging on or is it just me? I was hoping to download the TA so I could smell this sewage for myself....


Can't get on from here either. I was just looking for AP's email address so I can tell him what a tool he is.
 
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica] Here's the link:[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]https://www.ballotpoint.com/NPA-ATL/[/FONT]
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Logon is in the top left with your Voter I.D. Number and PIN.
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Menu to the left, says View Ballots, click it.
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Drop-down box at top center of page select "August Tentative Agreement Ballot TA2"
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Click appropriate box.
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At top left menu, under the VIN and PIN boxes, make sure you click LOGOUT when you're done, ESPECIALLY if you're on a public hotel or ops computer.

[/FONT] [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]Thanks for taking the time to vote![/FONT]
 
Why do you have to tell people how to vote?

You are not part of their family and some people do need this company to continue to grow . That is great if you want to just keep moving from company to company.=Leave if you are not HAPPY there are SO many other companies that will be happy to pay you 200k a year !!!
 
Are you really that blind? Its not the money for most of us, the fact that we are going to have RJs subbed out is a real big problem. If it has a little a on the tail we fly them. No one else-period.
 
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