Airtran recalls all furloughed today

[V1rowt8]

Not sure if this has been covered yet but heard today from a furloughed Airtran pilot currently in requal class was told all of the furloughed pilots have been re-called. Good news for the Airtran pilots, hope it is the begining of a trend industry wide. Now all they have to do is get the company talking seriously about their contract that has been expired for almost four years.

 

[GuppyWN]

Welcome back.

Gup

 

[instructordude]

No offense but this is the Majors forum.

 

[DonVerita]

Not sure if this has been covered yet but heard today from a furloughed Airtran pilot currently in requal class was told all of the furloughed pilots have been re-called. Good news for the Airtran pilots, hope it is the begining of a trend industry wide. Now all they have to do is get the company talking seriously about their contract that has been expired for almost four years.

Nothing is out officially yet. The facts so far is that around 100 of the 169 have been offered recall. The approx. 69 still left are "rumored" to be recalled in Spring, with hiring to commence in Summer.

For clarification, a union contract never "expires"; it becomes "amendable". We are almost 4 years beyond our amendable date. Current contract is still in force.

 

[GuppyWN]

instructor dudette said:

No offense but this is the Majors forum.

Were you born a moron or did it evolve?

Gup

 

[DonVerita]

No offense but this is the Majors forum.

Ummm..yes, we all know that; perhaps with exception of yourself. That's why he posted the information in the Majors forum. AirTran Airways is a major airline.

 

[V1rowt8]

Nothing is out officially yet. The facts so far is that around 100 of the 169 have been offered recall. The approx. 69 still left are "rumored" to be recalled in Spring, with hiring to commence in Summer.

For clarification, a union contract never "expires"; it becomes "amendable". We are almost 4 years beyond our amendable date. Current contract is still in force.

Sorry what I meant was it would be nice if the management at Airtran would get serious in discussing the CBA that was amendable almost four years ago in the interest of a pilot group that has been more than patient.

 

[regionaltard]

instructor dudette said:
Were you born a moron or did it evolve?

Gup

Please don't feed the trolls.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Nope, Letters went out today to the last of the furloughed guys.

 

[ces152]

No offense but this is the Majors forum.

Usually I just dismiss Avatars as something fun or funny, but I am now convinced that you are the TOOL pictured in your Avatar.

 

[Max Powers]

Nothing is out officially yet. The facts so far is that around 100 of the 169 have been offered recall. The approx. 69 still left are "rumored" to be recalled in Spring, with hiring to commence in Summer.

For clarification, a union contract never "expires"; it becomes "amendable". We are almost 4 years beyond our amendable date. Current contract is still in force.

Yes, always trust a -8 guy to know the real skinny!

Another question for you....I listened briefly to the latest investor web call and they said we will have a net decrease of 2 aircraft for the year 2009 and no additions in 2010. Is that correct or did I hear it wrong. I suppose all the growth could come through better utilization?

 

[maxblast72]

Another question for you....I listened briefly to the latest investor web call and they said we will have a net decrease of 2 aircraft for the year 2009 and no additions in 2010. Is that correct or did I hear it wrong. I suppose all the growth could come through better utilization?

Arne Haak said we started 2009 with 136 aircraft and plan to end the year with 134. We are taking 4 deliveries this year (2 are Boeing strike delayed aircraft that were supposed to be delivered December 2008). Arne said Airtran plans on getting to 134 aircraft through additional aircraft sales. He then went on to say that no further deliveries are planned right now until 2nd quarter 2011.

With a planned 4% reduction in ASM for 2009, it makes you wonder why everyone is being recalled. Maybe management feels there is going to be some additional major domestic capacity reductions announced this year and want to be in a position to capitalize on them.

Good news is that our January load factor was up 5.8% versus January 2008 numbers. Arne said Airtran was predicting 1st quarter RASM to be in a range from +1% to -2% and fuel prices around $1.80-1.85/gallon. When you take a basically flat RASM projection with those fuel prices, it makes it difficult to see poor first quarter results.

 

[Whataburger]

Seems like all the good news these days comes from AAI. Good for yall.

 

[Linedriver]

Congratulations men! That is definitely good news!

 

[ron burgundy]

No offense but this is the Majors forum.

You are a MAJOR tool with a little man complex, so I geuss you're in the right place.

 

[PRINCE AKEEM]

You are a MAJOR tool with a little man complex, so I geuss you're in the right place.

Ronny, baby, don't feed the troll; this is much too important a thread. "Dudes" best work was the one where he told the UPS pilots that the Mgmt pilots were far superior...if you listen closely you can still hear them yelling from the Cargo forum!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

instructordude is around the best "troll" on the forum....along with Tanker.

It's amazing who they get to bite.


Good for the FL guys on the recall....it's always great to hear good news in these times.

 

[ultrarunner]

Nope, Letters went out today to the last of the furloughed guys.

When the last one furloughed is back on line, how long will they have been on the street?

 

[ces152]

6 months if they come back in March
7 months in April

 

[Ratherbsurfing]

Ronny, baby, don't feed the troll; this is much too important a thread. "Dudes" best work was the one where he told the UPS pilots that the Mgmt pilots were far superior...if you listen closely you can still hear them yelling from the Cargo forum!

I agree, that was hilarious. Thanks for reminding me and providing my morning laugh. By the way, good to hear about the recalls.

 

[ultrarunner]

6 months if they come back in March
7 months in April

Wow....classic 'knee-jerk' furlough, huh?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

The first group of recalls would have been off property for 4 months.

 

[Mongolikecandy]

There has been no word from the NPA on this yet. I just don't want to get my hopes up on this. How official is this news or is it one of those, " I heard from a checkairman...." kind of things?

 

[Secret Squirrel]

This is what the training department told the returning furlough group that started yesterday. The letters went out yesterday to offer recall to everybody. If you are on the list you should get something today or tomorrow. I don't think the company is talking to the union, so they are probably the last to know.

 

[Britpilot]

Ignore List instructordude
Tanker Clown

Problem solved.

 

[Mongolikecandy]

This is what the training department told the returning furlough group that started yesterday. The letters went out yesterday to offer recall to everybody. If you are on the list you should get something today or tomorrow. I don't think the company is talking to the union, so they are probably the last to know.

Thanks SS.

 

[Ty Webb]

A 6 month furlough doesn't save anything; it actually costs money. . . . another expensive mistake by JT.

You can add that to the absolutely assinine decisions made regarding the Flight Attendant "furlough" that never took place (because so many walked off the job they actually had to hire, not fire) causing cancellation after cancellation, and, of course, the infamous Christmas fiasco of 2007.

When is the CEO going to wake up and realize that his buddy Tabor has been a very expensive failure, and needs to be replaced by someone of proven abilities?

Until Bob F. really cleans house down in MCO, I think our long-term success is still in question.

 

[Mr.B]

A 6 month furlough doesn't save anything; it actually costs money. . . . another expensive mistake by JT.

You can add that to the absolutely assinine decisions made regarding the Flight Attendant "furlough" that never took place (because so many walked off the job they actually had to hire, not fire) causing cancellation after cancellation, and, of course, the infamous Christmas fiasco of 2007.

When is the CEO going to wake up and realize that his buddy Tabor has been a very expensive failure, and needs to be replaced by someone of proven abilities?

Until Bob F. really cleans house down in MCO, I think our long-term success is still in question.

Will you settle with UALs Tilton? Please?

 

[RIDETHELIGHTING]

Remainder of furloughed pilots recalled
AirTran recalls 49 furloughed pilots

Busier summer schedule will require more pilots, carrier says

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Wednesday, February 04, 2009
AirTran Airways is calling back to work 49 furloughed pilots, saying it will need them for its summer flight schedule.
AirTran last August announced it was furloughing 169 of its 1,450 pilots as it shrank its flight schedule in the last four months of the year. It has since made three rounds of recalls to bring 120 pilots back to work, and this week plans to send out letters to recall the remainder.

We believe we’ll need them for the summer schedule,” said AirTran spokesman Tad Hutcheson. He said the airline also needs pilots at work after some pilots retired. The last round of recalled pilots will come back to work in March. AirTran, which is based in Orlando, has its main hub in Atlanta and all of its pilots are based in Atlanta.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

sorry to keep asking on these recall threads but im really looking to get in touch with someone.

Any of the furloughed now recalled airtran guys that worked in SRQ on this board please PM me. Thanks.