AirTran Recall Results

[twepilot]

Good post 73av8r...But, there are still those out there that think that alpa is the miracle cure.

RV

 

[PCL_128]

you might want to wait until the results of that lawsuit come out as some TWA folks thinks dues will be increased to cover the judgment.

ALPA has $87 million in the Major Contingency Fund (MCF). If the TWA pilots are able to convince some moronic judge that they deserve some money (highly unlikely), then the MCF will easily cover the payout without any need to raise dues. I was actually a supporter of raising dues when I was a rep to increase the funds in the OCF, but Captain Beebe was steadfastly opposed and said that he couldn't foresee any circumstances that would require a raising of the dues. Captain Beebe still has over 3 years left on this term, and I doubt you'll see dues raised at all during that time.

 

[PCL_128]

Good post 73av8r...But, there are still those out there that think that alpa is the miracle cure.

Nobody thinks ALPA is a "miracle cure." However, it's a hell of a lot better than what we have now, and it has resources that we won't be able to amass in 100 years as an independent union. Trying to go it alone when we have the resources of a 76 year old union with 60,000 members available is ridiculous.

 

[jneely]

why bring alpa in when they will take your money for consulting. like i have said in the past alpa will put us out of business if they think they can make more money in the long run. no to alpa!

 

[Kharma Police]

why bring alpa in when they will take your money for consulting. like i have said in the past alpa will put us out of business if they think they can make more money in the long run. no to alpa!

Guess what, they are already taking our money for consulting. Some of the services that the NPA has used from ALPA for our T.A.(s) would be provided.

 

[jneely]

Guess what, they are already taking our money for consulting. Some of the services that the NPA has used from ALPA for our T.A.(s) would be provided.

my point exactly. they did a great job helping our union without a hidden agenda. imagine how it would be with one.

 

[PCL_128]

my point exactly. they did a great job helping our union without a hidden agenda. imagine how it would be with one.

ALPA only provides the NPA with limited services. The full slate of ALPA attorneys, actuaries, accountants, communications specialists, etc... are not available simply through a services contract like the NPA has. ALPA has to provide the bulk of its resources to its member pilot groups. They are able to provide some assistance through services contracts, but it's quite limited. At Pinnacle, all it took was a quick phone call to Herndon and we had the ALPA scope specialist attorney on his way to Memphis to help write scope language. The NPA can't do that. The NPA depends on a single, albeit extremely intelligent and talented, former ALPA attorney that they have contracted as a consultant. The level of resources is simply without compare.

As for the hidden agenda you refer to, ALPA would have absolutely zero vested interest in harming one of the pilot groups that provides them with millions in dues revenue. ALPA's goal would be for both AirTran and Delta to do well so that they could pattern bargain off of one another. These "hidden agendas" and conspiracy theories are fantasy.

 

[Kharma Police]

my point exactly. they did a great job helping our union without a hidden agenda. imagine how it would be with one.

Have you flown with an ALPA airline, TWA maybe?

 

[jneely]

Have you flown with an ALPA airline, TWA maybe?

no sir

 

[STL717]

ALPA has $87 million in the Major Contingency Fund (MCF). If the TWA pilots are able to convince some moronic judge that they deserve some money (highly unlikely), then the MCF will easily cover the payout without any need to raise dues.

It's wise not to talk about things you know nothing of.