Airtran pilots, what about this?

[funnyman12]

Actually Gup....Airtran automatically contributes 10.5%. By doing this they contribute more than the $16500 fed limit...example...12ys cap makes 170,000/yr. 10.5% is $17850 + personal contribution of $16500. SW contract would be a $15810 company contribution + $16500 personal contribution. Now in 4 yrs an Aai pilot will make close to 200,000....at that wage the company contribution is $21000 and personal is still $16500 for a total of $37500. A SW pilot can only contribute a total of $33000. If you guys had that in your CBA you could make mucho dinero...especially the $300000/yr captains.

 

[funnyman12]

A $300,000 yr captain with Airtran retirement would gross a total of $48,000/yr. SW guy at that salary with your CBA is limited to a total of $33,000...that is $15,000 less retirement per year....roughly an $15/hr pay differential. Very significant.

 

[redflyer65]

Incoming!!

 

[funnyman12]

Hey guys I know your CBA is much better but I have to mention some of the limited benefits.

 

[funnyman12]

Airtran pilots make more than Continental, United, UsAir, Delta, Jetblue, Hawaiian....I know we make a lot less than SW but it does show that SW didn't buy an airline with low paid pilots, compared to the industry's snb payrates.

 

[Ty Webb]

Stop it, Funnyman! . . . . You WILL be assimilated.

What do you think happened to Funnymen 1 - 11? :laugh:

 

[texman]

Hey guys I know your CBA is much better but I have to mention some of the limited benefits.

True. Would be nice to have that. The FA's have a me too clause. So the would get it to. Mucho money. I wish we lived on a perfect world.

 

[Dash Power]

A $300,000 yr captain with Airtran retirement would gross a total of $48,000/yr. SW guy at that salary with your CBA is limited to a total of $33,000...that is $15,000 less retirement per year....roughly an $15/hr pay differential. Very significant.

Need to check the batteries in your calculator.

 

[funnyman12]

Haha...calculatingggg....$300,000 x 10.5% = $31,500 + personal contribution of $16,500 = $48,000....at Sw a pilot is limited by the feds of a personal contribution of $16,500...therefore the company only MATCHES the pilots contribution...total $33,000....my calculator seems to be operating....Meow

 

[airlinepilot]

This is easy.... let all air tran pilots that want to can keep there present contract.

 

[GlobeIII]

Funnyman12- I think your calculator forgot about our Top Hat/Excess contribution, that's OK you'll get the whole picture in NH orientation.

 

[SWA/FO]

Then keep your tranny wages !!!!

 

[funnyman12]

Bahhhhh.....can't win....you guys r worse than my wife! but I can sign off beetches!! See ya later

 

[fracpt]

if im not mistaken you would have walked and let airtran die less then a year ago. SWA makes a bid and bam you are not the lowest paid anymore.. HMMM. I am thinking because of SWA is the only reason you are not the lowest paid and the worst contract at this time... INMHO..

 

[Ty Webb]

if im not mistaken you would have walked and let airtran die less then a year ago. SWA makes a bid and bam you are not the lowest paid anymore.. HMMM. I am thinking because of SWA is the only reason you are not the lowest paid and the worst contract at this time... INMHO..

You don't seem to know much about AirTran, Contract negotiations, or much of anything else. . . . . But, hey, don't let that stop you from running your man-pleaser.

By all means, tell me in detail why I should thank SWA for the whopping 8% raise I got. Tell me why you deserve my seat. Tell me how you are such a superior aviator, and how your screening process is so vastly superior. . . . . .

Oh, snap, looks like you wouldn't have met AirTran's posted minimums, which required 121 PIC time.

Bwaaahaaaa! :laugh:

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Lots of guys and gals got on at AT without 121 PIC time.

 

[Ty Webb]

Lots of guys and gals got on at AT without 121 PIC time.

Not that I flew with in the past 6 years as CA, unless you're talking military or highly unusual circumstances.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

One great example is the Crew Scheduler that got on within the last year that flew nothing bigger than a Piper Seminole. Next time you are in the training center ask how that experiment went.

 

[Secret Squirrel]

There were also two corporate guys in my interview group that were hired with no 121 time. Didn't the head of the flight instructors flight attendant girlfriend/wife get hired on without 121 pic time?

 

[Ty Webb]

Those were some of the "special circumstances" . . . I never flew with any, though.

They also tried to get Boeing717 through, too, but he washed out before he even got to the Sim . . . . .