AirTran pilot arrested?

[kg4mvp]

GUILTY!!


Oliver Paul Reason Jr., 37



Shame on you,
Your a disgrace to the profession Oliver Paul Reason Jr., 37

I'd have to agree...serves the co*k sucker right. Too bad we don't have a different rule for this sob. Toss him in the streets of Baghdad!!!

 

[MJG]

The saddest part of this whole thing is how I found out about it. I was catching a few minutes of the Weather Channel before leaving the hotel room. The "travel correspondant", one of the cute chicks, starts talking about what's delayed, yada, yada, yada. Then out of nowhere she starts going off about some Airtran pilot in Vegas, blah, blah, blah......


That's where I heard about this, on the frickin Weather Channel !! Man I hope this all turns out to be false because if not, we've all been given a huge black eye by all the media including the damm Weather Channel. What's this profession coming to??

By the way....No one has mentioned whether or not the FO was around when this all went down and if he/she was dragged off on suspicion as well. If the FO was present then that person may be in deep sh!t as well.

 

[enigma]

Has any alcohol charge against a pilot stemming from a TSA agent saying "I smelled alcohol on his/her breath" resulted in a conviction?

I doubt it, from what I know, the TSA can not detain. They call a LEO and the LEO's go after the potential perp. If the LEO believes the TSA agent to be correct, then he will administer some kind of field sobriety test and arrest accordingly.

Actually, I wish that they did have the power to detain. As it stands, they get to make wild accusations without taking the steps necessary to validate thier conclusions; leaving it to the local police/deputies to do their dirty work.

enigma

 

[Steeler Fan]

Lets give Dave Segul, a brake here. He sits' at home at night typing away trying to feel more than he is. We all have anger issues, he no different. Me, I know i shouldz use spell check, but then what would people like Dave have to complain about. It gives everyone purpuse.

That's HILL-AIR-EE-UHSS

 

[Atlanta Vicks]

To all of the TSA haters:

I know we have heard all of the TSA monikers. Taking Sissors Away, To Stripsearch All, etc..... I used to be the same way before my wife went to work for them. Trust me though, after hearing what they go through during training and hearing some of the stories, Im glad they are there. Ive read a few posts suggesting that the TSA are out to get crewmembers and they only engage in conversation in order to "sniff out" the whinos. I asked my wife if there was a policy or unwritten rule to make small talk in order to smell if a pilot has been drinking. She told me no, that if they make "small talk" with a crewmember, its only to be nice and that they don't go looking for people drinking. Remember, they are there so that you guys don't have to "pop a cap" into anyone who decides that taking over an airplane with box cutters is a good idea.

 

[slowto250]

Kinder, Gentler TSA

Actually, in an effort to ease tensions between TSA and flight crews, they are adopting an old FAA motto : " We're here to help ".

How many airliners have struck tall buildings lately ? See, it's working pretty good, huh ?

 

[Frontier1]

I must say, what a load of arrogant pricks you are. Most of you are in the same profession. Why must you insist on treating everyone like poor bastards.

I guess the pilot profession will never have that Camaraderie that most professions have for each other. Clean up the act.

Go visit a Police of Firefighter Forum and see what respect means.

 

[slowto250]

Yeah, just ask Rodney King what a bunch of righteous cats they are. " To protect and serve "

Puleeeeez.

 

[Frontier1]

Yeah, just ask Rodney King what a bunch of righteous cats they are. " To protect and serve "

Puleeeeez.

He did fight back. Anyway, that was a couple of cops. Most of this forum is lacking respect for one another.

Seems like most on here bash each other. Even when a crash has happend most of you start digging into the deceased and their flying skillz.

I do not need to explain myself. Just about every thread has bashing in it.

 

[CatfishVT9]

Wow, what emotions over wild speculation. I can probably add some perspective on a few things though.


On this flight, the "crew van" has only 2 in it (I've done this trip a bunch). One CA, one FO. The FAs fly the flight from ATL and back as continuous duty. Unless there's lively conversation, I can see how the FO probably didn't notice.

I've only flown with one FFDO, but the procedure I saw is to go to the first TSA agent and tell them in a low voice them your FFDO status. Since this shouldn't be announced to the world, you have to get close so they can hear you. Where they go from there, I don't know, but that first contact is probably where it was noticed.

Doesn't everyone realize that everyone in the airport is looking for the next "drunk pilot"? During football seson, I like to go to the Budweiser Brewhouse in ATL to watch a game and have a meal if I have a while to wait. About every other visit, some passenger makes the "I hope that's water" comment. They're joking to make small talk, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that we're being watched.

So why even drink on the road? Do we need it that badly? Technically you could drink at lunch and be legal to fly on this flight. But why risk it? To blow a .04 at midnight west coast time, that would mean A LOT of drinking at lunchtime. If this is all true, Randy has a serious problem and I hope he gets help.

Let's be careful out there....

Catfish

 

[CMonBoard]

Does the "Budweiser Brewhouse" have a restaurant beside the bar?
Even if it does, that's probably suspect interpretation of your Operations Guide or whatever you call your company manual. Most all of those books have something in them about eating in a "bar" environment in a way that would cause you to be recognized as a pilot. You didn't state that you were in uniform, but if a passenger thinks you are a pilot, I suspect you must have had something to indicate your profession.

I woodn't (intentional spelling mistake for the bored) even carry a hat into a place that was named "BudweiserBrewhouse". But I'm chicken AND paranoid.

 

[DetoXJ]

I wouldn't call smelling alochol on a pilots breath and then reporting it to authorities a "Wild Accusation".....especially considerint the fact that the pilot went on to fail 2 breathalizers. If you don't want the TSA to smell booze on you then don't show up in the security line drunk. I'm not the biggest TSA fan but if they smell booze on a pilot they they SHOULD indeed report it to the proper authorities.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I was surprised to see that Leno didn't even mention the FFDO/Gun twist to the story. Seems he had a better punchline using the fact that "you know you've really had too much when people in Vegas notice you are drunk."

 

[Dave Siegel]

Hey David Siegel,

I had sex with YOUR woman and YOUR Mama polished my shoes last night with her nasty tongue.

Get a life man. You have nothing to add to anything. Nobody that posts here is totally free of spelling/grammar mistakes ect. ect. If you have nothing better to do than point out the misuse of your vs you're then I have a suggestion for you >>> GO GET LAID !!

I'm just trying to help you, so that you don't continue to be viewed as an inarticulate ignorant aviator instead of the consummate professional I assumed you were trying to be. Wow, YOU'RE quick with the insults though. As a matter of fact, my mother DID polish shoes, and she worked hard and tried to teach me the right way to be. Obviously, you spent too much time away from the Little House on the Prairie (probably chasing after Half Pint). I feel sorry for you, so I choose to forgive you for YOUR malicious personal attacks. I think everyone here knows just how insecure you are. At least FLB717 had a good sense of humor about it. Hopefully you'll get one soon.

 

[jetguy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lequip
Oliver Paul Reason Jr., 37 of Airtran Airways. You failed your breath test and showed up drunk. Your dumba$ should have called in sick. How can anybody feel for such an idiot! Your a disgrace to the uniform and profession. At least they caught the guy. Good heads up TSA for weeding out a bad seed.

Hey, I know Paul! In his defense I'd just like to say he's not a "bad seed". He's always been a good hard working guy that has in the past stood up for pilots in our own union in an effort to make things better for all of us. Yes he screwed up. But believe me, when a guy has a Wife and kids, as Paul does, he doesn't need any reminders.

He has made a mess of what most people would consider great life and career. After ten spotless years with the company he stumbled. As tragic as this is for him and his family, we as pilots can at least learn from it.

In one sense, your quote is well taken. As of late, this kind of thing is happening far to often in our industry when a simple phone call can nip it in the bud. There gunnin for us boys, please be carefull out there and save us all the embarrassment.


CALL IN SICK!!! It's that simple.

 

[Loogie]

If the news reports accurate - which from my experience is not likely - I find it interesting that he was arrested before actually being given a breathalizer. Arrested on the word of the screener, that's a little scary.

 

[CatYaaak]

If the news reports accurate - which from my experience is not likely - I find it interesting that he was arrested before actually being given a breathalizer. Arrested on the word of the screener, that's a little scary.

Semantics. Long before there was a TSA and seperate and apart from the formalized alchohol/drug testing programs, pilots have always been required by regulation (unless I've been reading them wrong for the last couple decades..which is entirely possible), to submit to an alchohol test if asked to by any local, state, or fed law enforcement officer. I guess it's up to the officer what constitutes suspicion for him to ask for one. Law enforcement has the power to investigate and detain people if they think that person might pose a threat to public safety...they'd be remiss if they didn't.

Most likely the formal arrest was made after blowing above the limit, but no doubt LEO's and those watching have been made aware of the Fargo incident, where the authorities didn't think they had authority to ask for a test without some kind of blatant proof before the crew blasted off.

 

[crashpad]

I'm just trying to help you, so that you don't continue to be viewed as an inarticulate ignorant aviator ... I think everyone here knows just how insecure you are.

This is actually part of his court-ordered therapy...and yes, it's helping but I doubt we'll ever see the results because he is not a 'professional' aviator.

 

[cowsfly]

There has never been a commercial airline fatality in the contiguous 48 states attributed to a pilot under the influence of alcohol. NEVER. This is society and media sensationalism. Fatigue is the biggest killer. Educate your fellow passengers about this factoid should they ever give you grief about pilots and drinking. I don't advocate drinking and flying, but I like for people to get real to the facts instead of a bunch of hyped up myths.

 

[av8tor4239]

Unbeliveable..

Some people just have it all... So many guys working for peanuts and investing everything they have to get to a positon to live the "life" and this guys HAS all of it and PIsses it away.

He was number 66 on the airtran sr list, and 37 years old. That is some sick sh*t.