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AirTran pilot arrested?
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So if it DOES turn out to be true, and it's found that unfortunately he's guilty of drinking, will all the TSA-bashers who are here (and I might add, also without the facts) be making retractions and issuing "Thank you TSA" statements for keeping an intoxicated pilot out of the cockpit? Who would want their family on that plane?
No doubt it sucks for him now (the media bitz and suspicion), but if he's proven innocent then his career won't suffer, and far from being tarnished his reputation will be further enhanced because from the posts here of those who know him he sounds like a good guy.
All these "Pilot arrested because TSA smelled alcohol" incidents are well-publicized. Does anyone know how many ended up in convictions, and how many turned out to be the work of over-zealous TSA wankers?
No doubt it sucks for him now (the media bitz and suspicion), but if he's proven innocent then his career won't suffer, and far from being tarnished his reputation will be further enhanced because from the posts here of those who know him he sounds like a good guy.
All these "Pilot arrested because TSA smelled alcohol" incidents are well-publicized. Does anyone know how many ended up in convictions, and how many turned out to be the work of over-zealous TSA wankers?
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From the Communist News Network: "The captain neither took command of the aircraft nor was the aircraft operated in any manner," the airline said.
If he neither took command of the aircraft nor was the aircraft operated in any manner, what's the guy guilty of? Is it illegal to be hammered in an aircraft terminal while wearing a pilot uniform? Because up until you take "command" you're not a pilot...just a guy walking around with a piece of DOT cardboard in your wallet.
As far as the TSA is concerned...when did they become the self appointed guardians of virtuous flight? Sounds like just another case of someone who can't possibly keep his mouth shut.
Sorry but, I am NOT my brother's keeper!
Aviation would be a much better place if we'd all just mind our own business.
If he neither took command of the aircraft nor was the aircraft operated in any manner, what's the guy guilty of? Is it illegal to be hammered in an aircraft terminal while wearing a pilot uniform? Because up until you take "command" you're not a pilot...just a guy walking around with a piece of DOT cardboard in your wallet.
As far as the TSA is concerned...when did they become the self appointed guardians of virtuous flight? Sounds like just another case of someone who can't possibly keep his mouth shut.
Sorry but, I am NOT my brother's keeper!
Aviation would be a much better place if we'd all just mind our own business.
Has anyone thought..
I agree totally that this guy has already recieved a bad rap....where is the justice here, not one mention yet that he "tested" positive...just some TSA guys word????WTF....
This is total BS....if the TSA wants this power then put BAC machines at the gates for everyone to blow in as well...hell they undress us everytime we go through security anyway...
I just wondered if anyone here has given this a second thought...LAS has 1 Airtran Gate....Hmmm airtran moving more business into LAS...Lost of airlines doing business therer, maybe another carrier has decided to play dirty and call in a tip, Something like an Airtran Crew was seen drinking before they went to the airport....calls the TSA hotline.......
In this day of cut throat tactics, I would not be surprised, especially in LAS..one of the most powerful towns in the world...
In the mean time, put yourself in his shoes for a minute...wait for an offical report from testing....
I believe the TSA should be held accountable for damages in the way they publicly handel these things...the damage they do to an airlines reputation, the pilots... could'nt this type of thing be handeled more privately, of course it could and it should be required!!! If the charges are proven later to be accurate..well then the gloves are off, but the public perception, the company perception of the accused employee, this is the only thing I see criminal right now.. JMHO
I agree totally that this guy has already recieved a bad rap....where is the justice here, not one mention yet that he "tested" positive...just some TSA guys word????WTF....
This is total BS....if the TSA wants this power then put BAC machines at the gates for everyone to blow in as well...hell they undress us everytime we go through security anyway...
I just wondered if anyone here has given this a second thought...LAS has 1 Airtran Gate....Hmmm airtran moving more business into LAS...Lost of airlines doing business therer, maybe another carrier has decided to play dirty and call in a tip, Something like an Airtran Crew was seen drinking before they went to the airport....calls the TSA hotline.......
In this day of cut throat tactics, I would not be surprised, especially in LAS..one of the most powerful towns in the world...
In the mean time, put yourself in his shoes for a minute...wait for an offical report from testing....
I believe the TSA should be held accountable for damages in the way they publicly handel these things...the damage they do to an airlines reputation, the pilots... could'nt this type of thing be handeled more privately, of course it could and it should be required!!! If the charges are proven later to be accurate..well then the gloves are off, but the public perception, the company perception of the accused employee, this is the only thing I see criminal right now.. JMHO
I have been random alcohol tested before and it only takes a few minutes literally to be tested and have the results. I would bet that if this guy was accused of drinking prior to flying that he was wisked off ASAP and tested. They would need there proof to substantiate there claims. So with Air Trans annoncmant covering there butts I would bet that this article is sad but true. Also you dont need to blow very much to be considered impared for flying. It isnt like a DUI while driving your car.
Guys,
First off the TSA security screeners have zero detainment authority. If they suspect something is wrong they contact a LEO assigned to the checkpoint. It is then up to the LEO to determine if an individual is to be detained. If you read the article the LEO gave the pilot a breathalyzer test then detained him. If I were betting on this one, I would bet that this pilot was over the limit.
"“The Las Vegas Police Department did escort the captain from the aircraft and performed a Breathalyzer test. It is our understanding the captain failed the Breathalyzer test,” said Tad Hutcheson of AirTran Airways."
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First off the TSA security screeners have zero detainment authority. If they suspect something is wrong they contact a LEO assigned to the checkpoint. It is then up to the LEO to determine if an individual is to be detained. If you read the article the LEO gave the pilot a breathalyzer test then detained him. If I were betting on this one, I would bet that this pilot was over the limit.
"“The Las Vegas Police Department did escort the captain from the aircraft and performed a Breathalyzer test. It is our understanding the captain failed the Breathalyzer test,” said Tad Hutcheson of AirTran Airways."
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Unfortunately TSA will never get a black eye over this incident. If he is guilty the kudos will go to TSA for finding it. If he is not guilty, the response will be "we're glad TSA is looking out for this stuff".
PS - Just noticed something in the link to the article. The headline for drinking pilot reads "Pilot Arrested on AirTran Flight", the but headline about the airplane skidding off the runway reads "Plane Skids Off Runway; No Injuries". Why doesn't it read "Delta Plane Skids Off Runway", or the AirTran one read "Pilot Arrested on Plane". One article names the airline in the headline, the other doesn't. Seems a little biased to me.
PS - Just noticed something in the link to the article. The headline for drinking pilot reads "Pilot Arrested on AirTran Flight", the but headline about the airplane skidding off the runway reads "Plane Skids Off Runway; No Injuries". Why doesn't it read "Delta Plane Skids Off Runway", or the AirTran one read "Pilot Arrested on Plane". One article names the airline in the headline, the other doesn't. Seems a little biased to me.
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