AirTran pilot arrested?

[FLB717]

Gentlemen,

Lets not pound on the guy too much. I know him, and have never disliked him nor felt he was a bad seed in any fasion. He has gone from a Six figure a year income to 0. He is paying the price for the over sight or lack of it.He has lost any chance at a 121 career and faces large hurdles in his Proffesional and Peresonal life that will affect him very deeply. I feel for him and hope that anyone who has a problem or feels that they might enroll in the HIMS program. It could save your future before it is out of control.

 

[ultrarunner]

Will they revocate his wrenches also?

I should have been more clear.....

His bio at the FAA indicate he is also an A & P. Could he possible be allowed to work on planes?

 

[ultrarunner]

His picture is on the ATL news websites. I feel for this guy right now.

I feel for families of the Tsunami victims.

 

[Steeler Fan]

I feel for him and hope that anyone who has a problem or feels that they might enroll in the HIMS program. It could save your future before it is out of control.

That's pretty sound advice. I've already lost 1 job due to furlough (I know that many out there have it alot worse than me), but to throw your career down the drain...awful.

 

[blzr]

It's a weak argument for him to say "well, technically, I wasn't the Captn YET, I hadn't signed the release and I hadn't even started the engine." A buddy of mine got a DUI last year and instead of taking his lumps decided to take it to court and said that he had only gotten in his car and not started it yet. It is the intent that, IF he was intoxicated, will nail him. I doubt he was going to call schedueling after the preflight and say he couldn't fly.

 

[dbrownie]

A quick review of Lyle Prouse's story and you may change your tune. Instead of throwing Oliver under the bus, just let the process work and have some compassion....


Except Lyle Prouse was a known "jerk"!!

To me the worst thing about this is that another
TSA slug "saved the day". Just what they need
is another feather in their cap.
Dave B

 

[8vATE]

I think most of us would agree there should be ZERO TOLERANCE for being intoxicated while being an air carrier pilot...


I've seen a lot of guys play fast and loose with the 8 hour rule......

It is just stupid in my opinion.....
And this guy is an FFDO....
Great... a black eye to your fellow FFDO's and the program.


And now the TSA guys are further bolstered in their role as Alcohol Inspectors..
You ever notice how some of them will saddle up to you fairly close and want to carry on a conversation?

Well.... you're being evaluated...

Wake up guys.....
if you have a drinking problem get help..
If not.. you're jeopardizing you, your crew, your passengers and your career.

 

[Flynfish]

JUDGEMENT.. isn't that a major part of our job description? There is no excuse. That is what the type ride is all about, one knows how to fly at that point, they want to see your judgement and decision making skills, that's what gets one the fourth stripe.

 

[TopGun-MAV]

how do i pack heat in the cockpit? can fo's do it?

 

[Tripower455]

Let's not jump on this guy just yet......... The tsA has had several false alarms in this area in the last few years that were in the news before the guy even had his BAC checked. No retractions from the major news outlets on these guys after they were cleared of wrongdoing either.

The article is very vague in what exactly happened.

That said, if he is actually guilty, there is no excuse, and deserves everything he gets. This job is too friggin easy to screw it up that way.

I have a lot of problems with the fact that a company spokesman told the media that the guy is an FFDO. That is criminal (literally). They put the guy and his family in danger, especially if he is cleared of charges and returns to the line.

 

[General Lee]

I do quite a few redeyes from LAS----and we always go through security. Our group of gates is right next to the sole Airtran gate. Southwest doesn't go through security? What? Oh, that's right---they are all only wearing speedos in flight anyway---just one SMALL check and they are at the gate......



Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[GogglesPisano]

Ever wonder why the screeners get right in your face and ask to see your ID after you've already shown in to the geriatric rent-a-cop at the podium? Because they're just dying to make the headlines.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

I think most of us would agree there should be ZERO TOLERANCE for being intoxicated while being an air carrier pilot...


I've seen a lot of guys play fast and loose with the 8 hour rule......

It is just stupid in my opinion.....

On the record: You sir, are a fool. Apparently it is not obvious to you, which is even more distressing. You are telling everyone on this board (and the FAA) that you have witnessed crew members violate the 8 hour no alcohol FAA regulation (FAR) and you failed to notify the appropriate authorities. I would love to hear your explanation at an FAA and company enforcement/disciplinary hearing, especially a post-incident inquiry investigation.

Off the record: do not ever put yourself in a position in which you knowingly observe any crew member violate the 8 hour no alcohol FAR. Approaching the 8 hour point, EXCUSE yourself from your colleagues and get the hell out of there if there is even the remotest chance some jerk will violate his window. Failing the above action, you have placed your ticket in jeopardy for failing to notify the FAA over a willful FAR violation (according to an FAA aviation inspector acquaintance).

Your beer may vary!

BBB

 

[turtle1]

how do i pack heat in the cockpit? can fo's do it?

Topdork,

You're a frickin tool! Go play on the other boards.

If you haven't flown tactical, don't try to act like you have.

Oh, and you're also a jungle jet co-captain, huh? Didn't realize you could hold an ATP with 900 hours.

Okay, now that I've got that off my chest - on to the topic at hand. This guy is toast. I know he probably needs help for his drinking, and I hope he finds it. But I can't really say that I feel sorry for him; it's his family that is going to suffer most.

 

[Busflyer]

He never said he didn't report them!!!

 

[Mugs]

I do quite a few redeyes from LAS----and we always go through security. Our group of gates is right next to the sole Airtran gate. Southwest doesn't go through security? What? Oh, that's right---they are all only wearing speedos in flight anyway---just one SMALL check and they are at the gate......



Bye Bye--General Lee

Were you the guy that left the dried snot all over the wall of my room at the lovely hotel we stay at in LAS? I thought so.

Seriously though. Let the facts come out first on this event. I spoke with a Captain that was falsely accused by the TSA in GEG. The media was tipped off immediately. The resulting media circus was just unreal. I won't repeat the many details of the story (as well as the story within the story) here. All I can say is that after listening to the first hand acccount; well talk about shock and awe. It is simply a horrendous experience. Guilty until proven innocent. Even once innocence is proven, the damage done by the initial media bombardment is irreversible.

 

[FL717]

I have a lot of problems with the fact that a company spokesman told the media that the guy is an FFDO. That is criminal (literally). They put the guy and his family in danger, especially if he is cleared of charges and returns to the line.

The company put out that press release in response to some misinformation that was being reported on other news reports earlier that stated that the AirTran Pilot arrested was "armed' or "carrying a gun". These reports had various vague implications as reported and needed to be addressed.

Aside from the humanity aspect of this, this is quite a Public Relations mess for AirTran right now, and it is understandable why they absolutely had to clear up any misinformation early, regardless if you "have a lot of problems with that fact" or not.

Speaking of "misinformation"...... it is amazing at the similarity between a couple of the simpletons posting on these forums and some of the low budget local new reporters reporting a 7-11 robbery. Sadly, I would expect some of these comments from a P.O.S. news reporter, not from our own "peer" group.

 

[Tripower455]

The company put out that press release in response to some misinformation that was being reported on other news reports earlier that stated that the AirTran Pilot arrested was "armed' or "carrying a gun". These reports had various vague implications as reported.

Aside from the humanity aspect of this, this is quite a Public Relations mess for AirTran right now, and it is understandable why they absolutely had to clear up any misinformation early, regardless if you "have a lot of problems with that fact" or not.

Admitting that he is an FFDO, for whatever reason, is a crime.

They could have said that they were mistaken about the gun.

Whoever tipped them off should fry.

$10 says that this is yet another media induced witch hunt, sparked by the tsA's ineptitude, and the guy is innocent.

 

[DDpaysoff]

Ever wonder why the screeners get right in your face and ask to see your ID after you've already shown in to the geriatric rent-a-cop at the podium? Because they're just dying to make the headlines.

Yeah, because they think I'm hot!

 

[DDpaysoff]

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And they want some of this overnight action. They won't tell, though!