AirTran Pay Rates??

[sabreliner]

I'm sure this has already been covered, but I couldn't find it for the life of me.

If anyone could post or PM me the AirTran pay rates, I'd appreciate it.

Also, they are based on a 70 hour guarantee, right?

Thanks.

 

[EMBATP]

pay

got a friend in training now. i believe 39.50 1st year, 56 2nd year 3rd year ca 112.50/hr. first year average is about 42,000 i think

 

[B190Captain]

I believe it's:

39.00/hr First Year FO
68.XX/hr 2nd Year

Upgrade about 2 and a half years to 3.

2nd year CA is 93.00 I believe
3rd year I do not recall.

70hr Guarantee.

 

[XGmaninGA]

Effective on 1 April 2003:

First yr. FO: 39.50
2nd yr. FO: 53.49
3rd yr. FO: 57.94

3rd. yr. CA: 101.65

70 hr. guarantee. paid during training.

 

[sabreliner]

Thanks.

 

[B190Captain]

What do I know? I am just a wanna be.

 

[Ty Webb]

Effective on 1 April 2003:

First yr. FO: 39.50
2nd yr. FO: 53.49
3rd yr. FO: 57.94

3rd. yr. CA: 101.65

70 hr. guarantee. paid during training.

Those rates are correct. The average line pays 84.6 hours. Pay starts Day 1. Per diem is $1.75 TAFB average seems like around 260 for the lines I bid. Mostly 3 and 4 day trips, 12-18 days off/month. Company contribution to retirement is 10.5%.

 

[UALX727]

Thanks for the info, Ty.

Do you know what the plan is for hiring this summer?? Anyone out there interviewing anytime soon?

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

Just a small correction.
The 2nd and 3rd year rates listed are for people on thier 2nd and 3rd year today.
For newhire:
second year (Apr 2004) is 55.94
and 3rd year pay is not negotiated yet, since the contract expires in 2004, but according to present scale the 3rd year Fo in 2005 would be over 61 and 3rd year capt in 2005 should top 107

 

[Citrus Jockey]

UALX727

It looks as if we will put about 7-11 pilots through class every 3 weeks or so. I have heard a total of 180-200 pilots hired for the year, with 64 hired so far this year (as of April 24th).

Citrus Jockey

 

[Heavy Set]

How do you like the 717?

Hey Citrus,

Just wondering, and a little off topic, but how do you like the 717 compared to what you used to fly? I see you flew an Avro (Mesaba) - I found the Avro a great aircraft from a PAX standpoint and pretty advanced from a pilot standpoint (it looked impressive with nice EFIS). How does the 717 compare beyond the speed factor? Any plusses or minuses for the aircraft?

I've got my app in and would love to fly one myself....


Cheers

 

[Citrus Jockey]

Heavy,

The 717 is a great airplane. From what I understand the 717 flightdeck is pretty much set up the exact same as the MD-11 (six CRT tubes and dual FMS), and with the venerable DC-9/MD80 airframe it is a great ride. The FMS on the 717 is a much more integrated system than it was in the Avro. The main difference being VNAV. The Avro did not have that. Both airplanes are CAT III autoland. Overall thought the 717 is a much better airplane because of the newer technology, new engines, and efficiency compared to the Avro. At FL350 the Avro would burn just over 4200 lbs/hr. At the same altitude the 717 will burn the same, and the 717 is obviously heavier (120,000 lbs MTOW vs. 93,000 lbs MTOW) and can hold 48 more passengers. Plus it would take the avro all day to get up that high while the 717 can climb at a pretty good rate all the way up. You gotta love those trailing link gear on the avro though, much easier to land than the 717. Pretty much guaranteed a soft landing everytime unless you were really asleep at the wheel.

Citrus Jockey

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

TWA 717s had autothrottles and they were using the autopilot in a vertical descent planning mode. The avionics were AWESOME!

Cliff
GRB

 

[G100driver]

I am suprised that the pay rates at AirTran were as good as a they are considering that a large number of pilots there are Eastern SCABS that PFT'D at Value Jet because no one would touch them. Good for them.

In these tough economic timesI just hope that all of you AirTran hopefulls remember who you might be sitting next to.

I am not trying to throw flames here, but I just do not want to see the industry go the drain and have Value Jet be a good job.

 

[trainerjet]

Flame bait. Ignore.

 

[G100driver]

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Flame bait. Ignore

You can chose to ignore, but it is the truth.

 

[trainerjet]

What do you care? If it's such a big deal to you, don't apply. BTW, I only advised to ignore YOU. That advice still stands.

 

[G100driver]

What do you care? If it's such a big deal to you, don't apply. BTW, I only advised to ignore YOU. That advice still stands

It is not that I care, it is just the truth.

It is a said state when we as professionals are speaking the praises of an airline that got its start by hiring scumbag SCABS who could not get job anywhere else. They were such scumbags that they had to buy there job.

For all of you professionals who are on furlough and need the employment I mean no disrespect to you. You need the work in aviation and have to do what you have to. I wish you the best, just remember that the guy in the left seat might be a filthy SCAB and please treat him/her with the respect that she deserves.

 

[trainerjet]

IGNORE THE FLAMER.

But, thanks for providing us all with this shocking, new information.

 

[B190Captain]

LOL!! Tjet!!

 

[jimcav]

Sorry to bite on this flame bait but insensitive jerks like G100 piss me off.If you dont have something decent to say about the fine company I work for (and a lot of other nice folks on this board either work or would like to work)then shut the hell up.Thank God I dont have to fly with people your attitude.Go to charm school buddy.Good luck to all.

 

[Ty Webb]

Yawn. What a pathetic puddle of puke you must be. Valujet was a long time ago. Quit living in the past.


I am not trying to throw flames here, but I just do not want to see the industry go the drain and have Value Jet be a good job. .

Regardless of what you want, little man, I guarantee you that working at AirTran is a much better career than what you're doing. I've done both, and I am telling you- you don;t have a clue.

Keep your tie out of the honey bucket, pudknocker.

 

[G100driver]

If you dont have something decent to say about the fine company I work for (and a lot of other nice folks on this board either work or would like to work)then shut the hell up.Thank God I dont have to fly with people your attitude.Go to charm school buddy.Good luck to all.

Like I say. It is now a sad day when we start fighting about the virtues of AirTran (Value Jet). My arguement has very little to do with the pilot group as a whole. I just find it frustrating that AirTran is now this wonderful job. It is an airline started by losers and now we are all excited to go work for a SCAB airline.

How many of you guys started your career saying that you wanted to work for sub-standard pay as well as an airline that has the top of the seniorty list held by SCABS.

I am sure that it is fine place to work now, but .....

 

[Ty Webb]

You're the only one fighting here. BTW, it's pretty clear you don;t know much about this company- there isn't much of anything Valujet still here. By September, there won't be a single DC9 left, it'll all be B717 and either Airbus or B737-700/800. Half of the pilots here were hired after the merger.

As for scabs, yep, we've got some. So does every major out there. Name me one that doesn't . . . . and tell me that you are somehow qualified to degrade all the other pilots that work there? Gimme a break. I've read your posts, and you aren't fit to lick the shoes of 95% of the guys on the property here.


My arguement has very little to do with the pilot group as a whole.

I see. So that is why you started off you whole rant by insulting the 800 pilots here.

I just find it frustrating that AirTran is now this wonderful job.

Make that a wonderful job that you can't have.

It is an airline started by losers and now we are all excited to go work for a SCAB airline.

Yawn. And Delta is a former crop-dusting outfit. And United is a former mail and freight carier. What's your point?

How many of you guys started your career saying that you wanted to work for sub-standard pay as well as an airline that has the top of the seniorty list held by SCABS.

How many of us wanted to end up in a corporate jet, holding hands and wiping asses for less than the guys at AirTran are making?

I am sure that it is fine place to work now, but ....

No butts about it, Chief. It's a great place to work. And we'll leave the butts to you. God knows there are enough of them sitting in the back of those corporate jets . . . and apparently, some in the front of 'em, too.


Have a nice life.

 

[fuzzy077]

nice

Very well said Ty!!

 

[B190Captain]

I second that!!

 

[crosscut]

....I am not trying to throw flames here....

Uh-hu

 

[sabreliner]

Quick, squak 7500!! My thread's been hijacked!!

Darn it, it was going pretty well, too.

 

[G100driver]

How many of us wanted to end up in a corporate jet, holding hands and wiping asses for less than the guys at AirTran are making?

Who said anything about wiping asses and making less than the pilots at AirTran.

Look, I am sorry that I obviosuly offended many of you. That was not my point. My point was what I thought was obvious. Right now AirTran is a "good" airline to work at when 4 years ago many of you would not touch it because all the "majors" were hiring. Now it is the only game in town and a far cry from what we all thought it was to be working for a "major."

Unfortunatly times have changed.

 

[EMBATP]

airtran

I'm pretty confident AirTran will be the next major, and I would be very happy to work there; as a matter of fact, I have applied.