AirTran MEC: Whine on!

[FlyinGuy]

Doug, your capt seat is going to delta.

 

[dicko]

So since the list can't change, are you going for money? Good luck with that, no matter if the arbitrator rules in your favor.

Yawn.

Red only cares if it's his money. He's not bright enough to realize that he's next. It's a common syndrome.

Yawn.

 

[dicko]

Unfortunately we at AAI have had a gut full of the SWAPA machine and the arbitrator agreed.

Word.

Sincerely,

Captain Ho Lee Fuk

 

[madjack]

You can have my SWA 737 CP seat as long as I keep getting paid as a CP...

 

[SWA717]

Doug, your capt seat is going to delta.

What about the 50 737s we brought to the table? I don't see you offering up those capt seats.

 

[WOWIdidntKnow]

Ok, now that Alpa gets to present it's claim to the DRC, does anyone have specifics as to what the claim might be?

 

[PCL_128]

PCL,

Legitimate question, When/if an arbie awards in favor of AAI/ALPA... Does SWAPA negotiate that award with SWA? it is being presented that way on the SWAPA forums....

There's nothing to really "negotiate." SWAPA is required to take the award to SWA management, tell them that the award is the position of SWAPA, and that SWA management needs to implement it. If management refuses to do so (unlikely, since Russ is the one who told us to file the claim in the first place), then a third arbitration takes place to get SWA management to do what the second arbitration said.

Clear as mud?

 

[redflyer65]

Red only cares if it's his money. He's not bright enough to realize that he's next. It's a common syndrome.

Yawn.

I'm next for what Dicko?

Your overly dramatic post? Probably.


I think PCL got it right, but I would predict that even if AAI 'wins', Southwest isn't going to issue one more dime on this acquisition. So then off to another arby with SW airlines. We should see that around 2018..... maybe.

 

[maxblast72]

I wouldn't start counting those chickens just yet. A merits case is a far different animal than a jurisdictional case. SWAPA's claim on the jurisdiction case was just batsh!t crazy. There was no way we were losing that one. But the merits case isn't quite so easy.

Seriously? I just went out and signed a contract on a $500K house in ATL after I read the ATN MEC blast the other day.

 

[DougCorp-9]

You can have my SWA 737 CP seat as long as I keep getting paid as a CP...

It's not the seat. I could care less about the seat. I don't want a giant pay cut.

 

[madjack]

So pay the "promised" 717 CPs post 1/15 SWA CP pay....but the SWA FOs senior to those guys gals might take issue...ugly for SWA, but they made this mess...

 

[dicko]

So pay the "promised" 717 CPs post 1/15 SWA CP pay....but the SWA FOs senior to those guys gals might take issue...ugly for SWA, but they made this mess...

Those SWA FOs did not bid for, nor were they awarded 717 Captain positions. The bid was directed by SWA Management. They created the bid and announced a new base for the 717, whilst negotiating the end of the aircraft at SWA.

You've got to admit, that's pretty dodgy.

 

[madjack]

Most people on both sides have issues with this deal...but this is America, and if it isn't in writing beware...from the perspective of SWA mgmt (who are not the founders) and pretty much everyone else not personally impacted, divesting the 717 was a good business decision... The 717 bidders at AAI gambled and lost... They should have not have been surprised, pissed for sure...

The shareholders/wall street would never support or understand if SWA mgmt promised to keep the 717 so that the FAT pilots could keep their seats...

 

[FlyinGuy]

What about the 50 737s we brought to the table? I don't see you offering up those capt seats.

Why should I offer you the 737 seats when you so willfully gave them away? Apparently, they were not that important to you.

 

[Just thinking]

Same lying management that every Other airline has. "He ain't Herb" would be better than flattish won't fly. GK is being told by the board to pony up on a return on investment. I am sure madjack proudly sports his rsw bracelet and will glladly accept anythig that management offers. Tried and true corndog yellow to the core...... anything management says is find by him.