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Britpilot said:
"Who was it that suggested we "won the lottery" and even threw two lottery tickets on the pedestal of one of our airplanes while jump seating?

Yeah, you guys aren't arrogant, no way.:rolleyes:
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Really? This sure sounds like a good story, but I doubt it is true. If it did happen, why didn't the cappy tell him to get his "lottery ticket buying kiester" off the jet? I sure would have!

We have a few good stories going around over here as well. My guess is that maybe 1% of the story is actually true.
 
waveflyer said:
Who was it that actually thought they could get relative seniority?

It's not arrogant to protect what's ours- your expectations were never going to be met- but I'm too slowly realizing you guys being pissed isn't my problem- good luck
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Who said that's what I wanted? I didn't.
I would have liked a fair deal, that's all, but that didn't happen.
You said it "protect what's ours" Sums it up and demonstrates where the lack of respect comes from.
You're correct, it's not your problem. This mess we have now is our problem, that's why we filed with the DRC to fix our problem. That's why I will file a grievance in August when the first FO that didn't bid SWA737FO goes to training before me. That is breach of contract. It won't do any good but I may as well get something from my ALPA dues
 
PCL_128 said:
No, but it is arrogant for you to think that you were entitled to what was ours.
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Very powerful response, but I'm just following this as a fly on the wall.. I'm just curious what specifically they wanted that was yours? Wasn't the original proposal DOH?

Just trying to understand, don't read anything else into my question.
 
HA25 said:
Very powerful response, but I'm just following this as a fly on the wall.. I'm just curious what specifically they wanted that was yours? Wasn't the original proposal DOH?

Just trying to understand, don't read anything else into my question.
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No, not even close. They considered DOH to be "unrealistic expectations" on our part.

What of ours did they want? Our seats and our seniority.
 
Your CEO sold you, and AAI seniority ceased to exist, the negotiated list is the new reality...blame ur CEO and ur MEC (for turning down the first deal)..,ur 5 year Cappy would have kept his seat...everyone would be getting SWA $$...but arrogant ALPA pr$&ks like u screwed it for ur entire group...you would rather blame GK and SWAPA but ur greed is what is costing u now...
 
Sorry, but I'm not going to engage in conversation with someone who types in "text speak" like a 13 year old girl.
 
No, but it is arrogant for you to think that you were entitled to what was ours.
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You're leaving, why do you care? Go host an open house or something. All your bases are belong to us!
 
SWA/FO said:
You're leaving, why do you care?
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I can care about injustice, even if it isn't going to affect me personally. But I realize that you are such a selfish POS that you don't understand that concept.
 
Injustice, get back to reality, slavery was/is an injustice, having an airline job at SWA is hardly an "injustice", many would consider that a good deal...
 
I think PCL is going to cave in and come over to the right side and drink the purple koolaide
Have fun you will be able to sleep nights or you could trot on over Delta and become best mates with the General, drink coffee in Paris and spent ( waste) your time putting drivel on FI
 
DUBLINFLYER said:
I think PCL is going to cave in and come over to the right side and drink the purple koolaide
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I know you guys are going to miss me immensely, but sorry, it ain't gonna happen. ;)
 
PCL_128 said:
Sorry, but I'm not going to engage in conversation with someone who types in "text speak" like a 13 year old girl.
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You may not want to have a conversation with 13 year old girl, but you are going to have a 6-7 hr conversation in the near future with our DFR attorney. Hope you do better than "Slick" did last week in NYC.
 
maxblast72 said:
You may not want to have a conversation with 13 year old girl, but you are going to have a 6-7 hr conversation in the near future with our DFR attorney. Hope you do better than "Slick" did last week in NYC.
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How is Haber? Has he bought a new S-Class with your money yet? Suckers.
 
Sacha said:
This is your former ALPA rep? ^^^^^^^

Stunning.
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Actually, he is "right on".

Anyone participating in a frivolous lawsuit will get exactly what they deserve... Years of grief, stress, and wasted $$. Just because you can find a lawyer willing to take your money doesn't mean you have a case.... And if he's not willing to take it on contingency, you don't have a case, or enough of one to be worthwhile.
 
Hey, MJ (Mad Jerk)

Seeing you post your angry rants each weekend from your OAK crashpad reminds me that sometimes, just sometimes, people do get what they deserve.

I'm posting this from a barrier Island in the Gulf of Mexico. Spending most of the Summer down here (well, I am working 6 days in July). Thanks for "holding down the fort" out West.

:beer:
 
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Ty Webb said:
Anyone participating in a frivolous lawsuit will get exactly what they deserve... Years of grief, stress, and wasted $$.
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No stress in this lawsuit for the plaintiffs, just $50/month. Call me crazy, but I actually enjoyed my 7 hr deposition in NYC. Depositions aren't hard when there is nothing to hide. I was in the room for both the former ATN MC Vice Chair's and former ATN 71 LEC Chair's deposition. One was stressful for the deponent while the other was a walk in the park. I will let you guess which was easier than the other.
 
maxblast72 said:
No stress in this lawsuit for the plaintiffs, just $50/month. Call me crazy, but I actually enjoyed my 7 hr deposition in NYC. Depositions aren't hard when there is nothing to hide. I was in the room for both the former ATN MC Vice Chair's and former ATN 71 LEC Chair's deposition. One was stressful for the deponent while the other was a walk in the park. I will let you guess which was easier than the other.
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"Stressful?" You crack me up with these melodramatic characterizations. Even if you were to win your silly lawsuit (fat chance, but hypothetically), "Slick" has nothing to lose. He can't be held personally liable, so his life changes not one iota. The idea that he would be "stressed" when that is the case is comical. You've got an overactive imagination.

As for me, if hypothetically I was someone who was getting deposed for this nonsense, I wouldn't be the least bit stressed. Maybe a little pissed off that my time was being wasted for such silliness, but that's about it.
 
Britpilot said:
Who said that's what I wanted? I didn't.
I would have liked a fair deal, that's all, but that didn't happen.
You said it "protect what's ours" Sums it up and demonstrates where the lack of respect comes from.
You're correct, it's not your problem. This mess we have now is our problem, that's why we filed with the DRC to fix our problem. That's why I will file a grievance in August when the first FO that didn't bid SWA737FO goes to training before me. That is breach of contract. It won't do any good but I may as well get something from my ALPA dues
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This argument is always about the details.
PCL has said over and over that AT's WORST case scenario should have been date of hire-
That's fair to him- pushing for relative, but landing somewhere between relative and DOH where all ex AT pilots now get a seniority position where they can pretend they were qualified and hired by SWA years BEFORE they were actually hired by Air Tran.

Is that what was "FAIR" to you?

If not help me out. My position is that your expectations are your problem. Explain to me what a fair SLI would've looked like.
In your own words Brit
 
waveflyer said:
This argument is always about the details.
PCL has said over and over that AT's WORST case scenario should have been date of hire-
That's fair to him- pushing for relative, but landing somewhere between relative and DOH where all ex AT pilots now get a seniority position where they can pretend they were qualified and hired by SWA years BEFORE they were actually hired by Air Tran.

Is that what was "FAIR" to you?

If not help me out. My position is that your expectations are your problem. Explain to me what a fair SLI would've looked like.
In your own words Brit
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I know of no one that wanted or expected a hire date at SWA before their actual AT hire date, stop being so melodramatic. Before you drag out SLI 1, it had a 30 percent seniority loss (average) also.
 
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maxblast72 said:
No stress in this lawsuit for the plaintiffs, just $50/month. Call me crazy, but I actually enjoyed my 7 hr deposition in NYC. Depositions aren't hard when there is nothing to hide. I was in the room for both the former ATN MC Vice Chair's and former ATN 71 LEC Chair's deposition. One was stressful for the deponent while the other was a walk in the park. I will let you guess which was easier than the other.
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Glad it was so entertaining for you that you're giggling like a schoolgirl about it . . . I'm sure that the transcripts of your deposition would be equally mirth-provoking, but I'm not interested enough to read it. . . .

The stress and expense I was referring to is not in the present, but over the course of the next 5-7 years as the fun wears off, and the other contributors cut their losses and bail.
 

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