Airtran MEC voted no

[SWA/FO]

I highly suggest you get laid soon

Maybe he does and has the laptop on his old lady's back while they both watch the hockey game?

 

[scoreboardII]

Little? This is epic, history books will note this moment, or at least a footnote on Wiki.

It has been epic....

 

[SWA717]

Maybe he does and has the laptop on his old lady's back while they both watch the hockey game?

Hahaha..lets hope not!

 

[CaptWidgeon]

Hahaha..lets hope not!

why not? that's win-win-win

wait, maybe:
hockey-win
laid-win
FI-draw

2 outta 3 ain't bad.

 

[SWA/FO]

Always wanted to marry a Canadian!

 

[canyonblue]

Always wanted to marry a Canadian!

"Dated" a few "ballet" dancer a long time ago...

 

[freightdogfred]

"Dated" a few "ballet" dancer a long time ago...

We won't judge you dude, don't ask don't tell, It's been legalized here in many states. Like Seinfeld said, not that there's anything wrong with that.

You don't need to hide in Canada anymore.

 

[canyonblue]

We won't judge you dude, don't ask don't tell, It's been legalized here in many states. Like Seinfeld said, not that there's anything wrong with that.

You don't need to hide in Canada anymore.

Surely you've never been to Canada, and the "Ballet".

 

[redflyer65]

This development can only mean BETTER seniority for the AT pilots. A staple won't happen, and Redflyer may end up in the bottom 300. Then he and I will have similar relative seniority at our respective airlines, until we continue huge retirements and they unfortunately stagnate. At least we'll be about the same for a few months! The bottom RULES Redflyer! Godspeed!


OYS

Another classic post from the General/OYS gone awry.

Thanks for the advice. Not anywhere close to the bottom 300 though.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Surely you've never been to Canada, and the "Ballet".

Is that the same as going to one of those Canadian establishments to observe "native folk dancing"?

Bubba

 

[Ty Webb]

Is that the same as going to one of those Canadian establishments to observe "native folk dancing"?

Bubba

I'm guessing it's a "Shoe Bar".

You know, the kind of place where the ladies only wear shoes.

 

[canyonblue]

I'm guessing it's a "Shoe Bar".

You know, the kind of place where the ladies only wear shoes.

That's freakin funny. :laugh:

 

[DonVerita]

Interesting flashback.

Well since you just had to bring that up again, I guess it's time for another memory refresher.

Arbitration would have been the road taken had it not been for YOUR management (specifically GK) that decided to violate the protocol arrangement by stepping in and leveling threats, veiled or otherwise, towards the ATN pilot group regarding non-integration. This was supposed to be a SLI-only discussion between the two unions, period. The Process Agreement had a mechanism --which both sides signed-- that said if the two parties could not come to an agreement then it would go to binding arbitration. Do you remember that? Do you also remember how adament GK was that he did not want to go to arbitration? It wasn't his call, he knew it, and he saw that this whole thing was headed that way because SWAPA just couldn't bring themselves to be "fair and equitable" regarding seniority by going with at least Date of Hire. Reason: Excessive arrogance and feelings of self superiority. Que GK. When someone holds a gun to your head and says vote for this or I'll pull the trigger, most people wouldn't risk their life (or in this case, career) second guessing if there was a bullet in the chamber or not. All of this done with a whisper in the ear to SWAPA of the Delta 717 sublease so Steve Chase could "capture more Captain seats".

SWAPA has poisened the well for decades. Anyone who tells you differently is either a junior F/O and thus had nothing to lose; or is lieing to your face. Either way, you'll find that the OAT pilots will make every effort to try and get along with the OSW pilots, but...we will never forget.

And with that, I'm done with this. Enjoy your perch. 2015 will be here soon enough.

 

[SWAdude]

Well since you just had to bring that up again, I guess it's time for another memory refresher.

Arbitration would have been the road taken had it not been for YOUR management (specifically GK) that decided to violate the protocol arrangement by stepping in and leveling threats, veiled or otherwise, towards the ATN pilot group regarding non-integration. This was supposed to be a SLI-only discussion between the two unions, period. The Process Agreement had a mechanism --which both sides signed-- that said if the two parties could not come to an agreement then it would go to binding arbitration. Do you remember that? Do you also remember how adament GK was that he did not want to go to arbitration? It wasn't his call, he knew it, and he saw that this whole thing was headed that way because SWAPA just couldn't bring themselves to be "fair and equitable" regarding seniority by going with at least Date of Hire. Reason: Excessive arrogance and feelings of self superiority. Que GK. When someone holds a gun to your head and says vote for this or I'll pull the trigger, most people wouldn't risk their life (or in this case, career) second guessing if there was a bullet in the chamber or not. All of this done with a whisper in the ear to SWAPA of the Delta 717 sublease so Steve Chase could "capture more Captain seats".

SWAPA has poisened the well for decades. Anyone who tells you differently is either a junior F/O and thus had nothing to lose; or is lieing to your face. Either way, you'll find that the OAT pilots will make every effort to try and get along with the OSW pilots, but...we will never forget.

And with that, I'm done with this. Enjoy your perch. 2015 will be here soon enough.

This is full of no fact but how you chose to see things. You feel your well has been "poisened" but most all on the combined list do not.

This was not ever going be an SLI that resembled two airlines merging. It was going to resemble a much smaller second tier regional carrier being sold to a much larger, much more well established, nationally reputable carrier.

Southwest Airlines spent 1.5 billion to make for a better SWA and that would have been anti-productive if GK would have let the pilot union of ATN push SWA around. Which was what appeared the MEC was doing after SL1 was denied.

GK voiced concerns and some of your group equate that as a gun to the head. He spoke in realities of this business and some couldn't cope and turned these realities into threats. He never said or insinuated that "you take this deal or else". Saying otherwise is not being truthful to yourself.

Your old management sold you without protecting one employee. Now if you want to be reasonable with your anger, start there.

 

[Ty Webb]

This is full of no fact but how you chose to see things. You feel your well has been "poisened" but most all on the combined list do not.

This was not ever going be an SLI that resembled two airlines merging. It was going to resemble a much smaller second tier regional carrier being sold to a much larger, much more well established, nationally reputable carrier.

Southwest Airlines spent 1.5 billion to make for a better SWA and that would have been anti-productive if GK would have let the pilot union of ATN push SWA around. Which was what appeared the MEC was doing after SL1 was denied.

GK voiced concerns and some of your group equate that as a gun to the head. He spoke in realities of this business and some couldn't cope and turned these realities into threats. He never said or insinuated that "you take this deal or else". Saying otherwise is not being truthful to yourself.

Your old management sold you without protecting one employee. Now if you want to be reasonable with your anger, start there.

Whatever gets ya through the night. :laugh: