Airtran MEC voted no

[canyonblue]

Now that is quality anger.

Thanks brother, it took a few minutes of stabbing my hand.

 

[Lear70]

Not sure what your hire date is but a 2006 hire SW MDW guy made 160k last year with EVERY weekend off.....not counting profit sharing. He would be closing in on 170k this year on his 6th year pay schedule.....again not counting PSharing....and his $200 a month insurance.

So at SW you could have EVERY weekend off, drop a third of the above guys trips and still pull in your 110k....or at a drop of a hat you could make 180k a year if you needed to.

I think you're missing the part where he's an F/O that's included in the STAPLE "Club 649". That means he'll have the seniority equivalent to a new-hire, in the bottom 11%.

I don't think that holds weekends off... could be wrong.

 

[PCL_128]

We could ask the same of you.

We will abide by the arbitrator's award and move on as a combined company. That's what was agreed to at the beginning of this process, and honorable people honor their agreements, just as Captain Chase said in his latest update.

 

[Sacha]

Was that the guy I said a friendly "Hi" to with a smile on a moving walkway in MDW? He replied with "You're welcome."
You guys are really full of yourself.

Maybe he is one of those military guys you and Sean Penn hate so much.

 

[4day]

We could ask the same of you.

I am thinking it will be much worse for AAI.

I am 99.9% sure a arbitration ruling , regardless of who has the favor, would never be challenged by ATN pilots. It cant be any where near that proposal so we only can get better. Will SWAPA take the ball and go home until GK say's you have to share? Or stay and play two on two with Delta. Not looking for a argument just asking.

 

[4day]

We will abide by the arbitrator's award and move on as a combined company. That's what was agreed to at the beginning of this process, and honorable people honor their agreements, just as Captain Chase said in his latest update.

Good to here. Hope it comes true....For all of us...

 

[Bwipilot]

The nice part for the SWA guys is that we still get to work under our contract while the whole thing plays out.

I'd say SWA guys aren't as afraid of arbitration is that we're wondering as a group why the Airtran MEC wouldn't even let it go to a vote. Most SWA guys expected more from the AIP but were at least taking a look at it. Our wonder is more like, "What the #@*& do the AAI guys expect?"

As many have noted before, the more the AAI pilots steer towards relative seniority, the harder the SWA pilots push for staple or if not, then fence and flush. It's going to be a long, nasty affair. The AIP wasn't great for either side--but it would've been better than the highway this mesh is going to go down.

Signing off until Jan 1st. Maybe a New Year will bring something better.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

If we had merged with Delta it would have been far different. AT is not Delta...sorry if that stings. It doesn't make me better than you. But my job and future at SWA is far better than your job and future at AT. That's all there is to it. Nothing personal.

The arrogance is SO top-notch!!

I just sat down with a big 'ol bag of popcorn for this show.

Good on ya AT group.....some at SWA need some humility.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

The nice part for the SWA guys is that we still get to work under our contract while the whole thing plays out.

I'd say SWA guys aren't as afraid of arbitration is that we're wondering as a group why the Airtran MEC wouldn't even let it go to a vote. Most SWA guys expected more from the AIP but were at least taking a look at it. Our wonder is more like, "What the #@*& do the AAI guys expect?"

As many have noted before, the more the AAI pilots steer towards relative seniority, the harder the SWA pilots push for staple or if not, then fence and flush. It's going to be a long, nasty affair. The AIP wasn't great for either side--but it would've been better than the highway this mesh is going to go down.

Signing off until Jan 1st. Maybe a New Year will bring something better.

Fence?? This is Rich!!!!

 

[Lear70]

AirTran gave Gary a clear message on what they think of Southwest.

YGBFSM... Really???

It's a clear message on what was thought of the SIA, not of Southwest.

Who writes these things? Passive-Aggressive lately? lol

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

You weren't invited to the party pal. You came along with an Uncle and at first we said, ok, enjoy yourself. Then you got drunk and threw up on my Uncle and trashed the house before you passed out in the bathtub. We just don't want to see you for awhile, if at all. So yeah, I guess you could say don't F'n piss us off.

Classic!!!

Canyon wants to fondle the uncle before showing him the door!!!

Get over yourselves!!

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

Maybe he is one of those military guys you and Sean Penn hate so much.

Sacha, you're an agnry tool.
I don't hate military guys, but if you don't think there is a lot of "waste" in DoD then talk to oyur FOs, they will fill you in.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

I hate to be Debbie Downer, but I see that as less and less likely. I've heard some rather interesting stories about how AAI crews have recently interacted with ours. Already getting ugly out on the line.

Begging for a staple (from anyone) just prior to the SW announcement, and now wanting their seniority AND the SW contract as a kicker. That's a pretty huge 'Snake River Canyon' jump. Most people would be quick to agree.

RF

Not me Red.....when your boys bust out a stapler "or else"......the BS is floating to the top watching you SWA guys get your panties in a wad....You all knew It was a POS from the day you floated it hoping the AT group would buy the veiled "man behind the holding company" threats and now ya gotta actually prove to an arbitrator that you are so special!!!

Defensive? Having a Midol Moment? you'd never know it by the "rational" threats being tossed out by SWA types.

 

[canyonblue]

Lumbcrap is back, I guess Little Caesars closes at 11. :laugh:

 

[canyonblue]

It cant be any where near that proposal so we only can get better.

The same thing said by two different sides, can't wait to see this.