Airtran MEC voted no

[Lear70]

Sweet-I luvs me some midget wrestling. Almost as good as female midget jello wrestling.

I think they like to be called "little people".

 

[texman]

According to our MC, SWAPA would not budge on the list and our guys walked out of negotiations. They were heading home as GK called them in to see if there is anything could be done to fix it. They respectfully agreed to try. He proposed his protections and restrictions. However our MC kept referencing to the bad list. GK looked at SWAPA. They moved a few numbers and said it was final. GK tried to make things work for both parties. Our MC felt that in a standstill with SWAPA and with GK's good efforts this would be the absolute best that could ever be negotiated at the table.

The last thing our MEC knew about the status of negotiations was that the MC walked out and was on the way home. The "emergency" meeting with GK was not communicated to MEC until after the fact due to timing and the nature of talks. The MC was cornered into agreeing to the proposal with no attorneys present, or MEC approval. (rest assured that will never be allowed again)

This started a disconnect between MC and MEC. Pilots never gave a bird to GK, in fact the opposite, we appreciate his effort to fix the list with protections.

It took MEC longer than SWAPA to vote, because while SL9 provided SWAPA with necessary adjustments to their CBA, the equivalent of SL9 still had to be drafted and approved by legal on our side, for our CBA along with other transitional documents that SWAPA didn't have to have to vote.

AirTran pilots were outraged with SWAPA's refusal to negotiate a fair list. The list is what this thing was about. The list you offered, not GK. He wasn't just helping us, he was helping you, because he knows you'll get crushed in arbitration. Now he can't say that he didn't try.

Don't tell me GK is mad at us... He knows the whole story, not just the propaganda SWAPA put out for you to cover up how THEY caused you to go to arbitration.

Dude I will tell you this. Not only did AT piss off GK, but you guys just pissed off the whole swa employee group. SWA as a whole is unified more than ever.

 

[Music]

Dude I will tell you this. Not only did AT piss off GK, but you guys just pissed off the whole swa employee group. SWA as a whole is unified more than ever.

Tex,

With all due respect, I get that people are pissed off. Like I said before, it goes both ways (SL8, for us). But please post the memo that was sent to all SW employees from GK stating that he's PO'd.

 

[SWA/FO]

Dude I will tell you this. Not only did AT piss off GK, but you guys just pissed off the whole swa employee group. SWA as a whole is unified more than ever.

True dat, my friends statements at the GO support this. This was the fork in the road moment and tranny drove straight ahead. This is being recieved very badly here at SWA.

Its ok to be proud, but "proud" doesn't pay the bills. Remember, its just a pair of twos and they are not wild.

:cartman:

 

[Ty Webb]

Dude I will tell you this. Not only did AT piss off GK, but you guys just pissed off the whole swa employee group. SWA as a whole is unified more than ever.

If that's true, it is regrettable. Unfortunately, we weren't able to accept the SIA in its present form

 

[redflyer65]

I think Gary fully understands now that 2 million per AAI pilot just wasn't enough, and at the same time he's getting an earfull from almost all of his SW pilots how unhappy they are. Beyond that, he has to look ahead to an angry mechanic's integration (makes the pilot talks look like a walk in the park), and the complete unkown of the FA integration. And the SW FA's union has been known to be much more militant than the SWAPA group.

It all kind of looks like a torn up lottery ticket to me. I don't see Gary stepping in during mediation to 'sweeting any pots', that ship has sailed.

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

Dude I will tell you this. Not only did AT piss off GK, but you guys just pissed off the whole swa employee group. SWA as a whole is unified more than ever.

They're mad cause we set example to our dispatchers who are in deadlock. You haven't even started talks with our mechanics yet, talking about hard core group.

 

[jonjuan]

Do not threaten his good will or his airline. He will take you down.

Down to China town. :smash:

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

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[jonjuan]

I think Gary fully understands now that 2 million per AAI pilot just wasn't enough, and at the same time he's getting an earfull from almost all of his SW pilots how unhappy they are. .

But wait. Up until 3 days ago, you and everyone else claimed that swa guys were already unhappy and your side would most likely vote it down. What changed? Or was that all hype to disguise what a windfall you would receive if it was approved on both sides? Which is it? What changed overnight?