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I disagree, as much as you dislike the SLI outcome, GK did try to make the deal as friendly to you all as possible (keep all captain seats as an example).

Labor harmony and every pilot having a vote being number two example of GK making sure pilots had a say.

So then add "No furloughs" retorted by GK and others numerous times and you will have no furloughs. You may fly min guarantee, or sit and not fly banking min guarantee, but there will be no furloughs.

Why?

Because WE are watching, and if he goes back on his word to you, he is toast. He is already on less than thin ice on our side. One hiccup and our goodwill is forever gone.

Glad you think that way.
However, no one has promised no furloughs on the AAI side, just that furloughs will try to be avoided. All furloughs will be on the AAI side until 2015.
I wish I could share your confidence.
 
Glad you think that way.
However, no one has promised no furloughs on the AAI side, just that furloughs will try to be avoided. All furloughs will be on the AAI side until 2015.
I wish I could share your confidence.

OK, we all understand how you feel. Now quit whining. You are starting to sound like a spoiled child.
 
You know, for someone who claims not to work for Southwest, you sure spend an awful lot of time posting on SWA threads and worrying about what ATN pilots think about SWA issues.
 
That is why we will see furloughs on the AAI side.
Current delivery schedule has 119 brand new Boeing 737s coming from Seattle from 2012 to 2015. Current retirement plans have approximately 130-150 aircraft leaving over the same time period (88 B717s and 40-60 Classics). There will be also be 400-500 medical, early, and mandatory pilot retirements over the same time period.

With Jet A prices dropping well below $3/gallon over the last few months and revenue numbers holding up so far (last month's RASM was up 5% if I recall correctly), SWA must be generating some pretty large profits from May on. If the current fuel/economic trends hold, the next capacity move will a modest increase in capacity not decrease (current plan is to hold capacity flat). I just don't see the math that indicates SWA will furlough on either side of the partition anytime soon.
 
What training? Aren't they going to force the Airtran 717 pilots to buy their own 737 types? I believe they get 6 months to pay for it
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No, but I got a one luv lanyard and an ugly flag tie and it only cost my seniority, my seat, my base, and a twenty dollar an hour pay cut. So I got that going for me....... Which is nice.
 
Bitchin all the way to the bank, u guys will fit right in

I know I should bow down and kiss the feet of a company that will allow me to pull gear for the next 7 years until I reupgrade and hold a base 1500 miles from where I live, yeah I'm sooo lucky.
 
Why? Is ATL not going to be announced as a base at SWA soon?

Thanks to my new seniority I won't hold it as capt in 3 to 5 years when I reupgrade. Oak or Las for me on reserve in 3 to 5 years, maybe.
 
No, but I got a one luv lanyard and an ugly flag tie and it only cost my seniority, my seat, my base, and a twenty dollar an hour pay cut. So I got that going for me....... Which is nice.

Actually, you are a little off. What cost you those things was YOU. That's right YOU. You entered this business just like the rest of us. You decided to work for a small airline out of ATL. You were the one that put all your chips on the table and made your bet on AT. Guess what. It did not work out like you planned. I am not making this a knock on you, but on all of us. This is the airline business. Some will get their dream job and make a ton of money then retire....Most of us will have a few more bumps along the way. In the end, YOU make your best decisions for you and your family. Sometimes it works out great and sometimes not so great. The key is to live within your means and take what comes with the best possible attitude. No that is not always easy, but it will give you the best results for YOU and your family......
 
No, but I got a one luv lanyard and an ugly flag tie and it only cost my seniority, my seat, my base, and a twenty dollar an hour pay cut. So I got that going for me....... Which is nice.

gonna wave the BS flag. sorry
 

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