AirTran MEC at SWAPA

[Cometman]

If you don't work for either company.....why would I give a flying sack of monkey spunk what you think?

Just to get you to write something. YOu are also an easy target but not as good as the other two. And do not try be as good as them. They are the easiest.

 

[texman]

I know you guys make WAAAAAAAAYYYYY more money than we do but if you had our retirement plan you would retire with more.

Well this is not all true in relationship to retirement. SWAPA will show the projections in relation to 401k and don't forget profit sharing. Plus this is a success sharing company and GK will not have a plan B on property. SWA does good pilots do good. Trust me I am all about free money, but doesn't make any business sense for SWA.

 

[Slug]

not there anymore.

 

[Wesb737fo]

Oooh....you got me good...yaaaaawn....I guess that makes you a master flame baiter level one....seriously .....you probably should find another hobby.

"You went full retard....everybody knows you don't go full retard"- Robert Downey from Tropic Thunder. Just kidding around comet man....rock on with your bad self.

 

[Cruncher]

KP,

Not sure if you are kidding or not (re: differences in final retirement account numbers with current company matches).

(AAI 401k match + B-plan = 11.5%)*$150k vs. (SWA 401k match + PS [nominally 5%]=14.3%)*$250k

SWA's dollar match is more than DOUBLE AAI's match (using the salaries above).

You don't normally make such mistakes, so I'll assume you are playing with ASADFW.

-k

PS much better avatar!

 

[redflyer65]

You guys need to seperate out why Southwest corporate is buying AAI. Has nothing to do with the SLI, just muddying the waters. The facts..


What does the Airtran contract or pilot group bring to the table for the Southwest pilot vs. the AAI pilots gains?

Kind looks like this..

Airtran - 50-80% pay increase. Better scheduling. Better retirement when adding 401k and profit sharing. Better insurance. Better relationship with management, etc, etc.

Southwest - nothing

 

[dicko]

To distinguish what will the Airtran pilot contract add to the Southwest pilot contract?

Well at least you understood the discussion. To answer your question; Nobody cares. I suppose you could add the 401k match if you were bored. I couldn't care less.

'Cometman'. Nobody believes that you were able to actually follow the discussion. No, this wasn't some brilliant plan on your part to illicit a response. You're just not all that bright and didn't understand what was going on.

Since Festivus is upon us I'll leave you with these thoughts from Mr Costanza:

"Many Christmases ago, I went to buy a doll for my son. I reached for the last one they had, but so did another man. As I rained blows upon him, I realized there had to be another way."

Happy Festivus

 

[Max Powers]

You guys need to seperate out why Southwest corporate is buying AAI. Has nothing to do with the SLI, just muddying the waters. The facts..


What does the Airtran contract or pilot group bring to the table for the Southwest pilot vs. the AAI pilots gains?

Kind looks like this..

Airtran - 50-80% pay increase. Better scheduling. Better retirement when adding 401k and profit sharing. Better insurance. Better relationship with management, etc, etc.

Southwest - nothing

What cave did you crawl out of?....The swa pilots don't give us those things - Mgmt of swa does. Therefore the real answer is; we both give each other nothing. In other words our 50 plus aircraft 737 pure growth and international cities with ATL and other hubs - we pilots of aai don't give to you either.

That is how the arbitrators will see it.

 

[Ty Webb]

Why is it the least-informed people are the most adamant?

 

[GuppyWN]

Because we don't need to be informed of what we already have at SWA like you guys do. It really is that much better.

Gup

 

[roughneck]

The swa pilots don't give us those things - Mgmt of swa does.

SWA management didn't "give" us our contract either. We earned it through hard work and negotiations. We earned our contract. What have YOU done to earn OUR contract?

 

[redflyer65]

That is how the arbitrators will see it.

No way it's gonna happen like that, keep dreaming.

The arbiter will look at the above list and the long term career differences at AAI vs. SW. And those differences (as much as you won't admit it) are massive.

The exact reason your guys were high fiving each other in LGA the morning of the announcement.

 

[jball2]

I keep hearing how AAI gives us 130+ aircraft. They realize they get 650+ from SWA don't they?

 

[27 driver]

SWA management didn't "give" us our contract either. We earned it through hard work and negotiations. We earned our contract. What have YOU done to earn OUR contract?

We built a profitable airline that your management wanted.

 

[ASADFW7]

I thought you built this city on rock and roll?