AirTran MEC at SWAPA

[Tejas-Jet]

Local Executive Council....same as your local BOD reps

 

[The Prussian]

I don't want the egos of the MEC screwing this up for everyone.

Life can be a beach!!

 

[Ty Webb]

I researched "Opus" in Wikipedia. It said that Opus was a comic book penguin. However, I think they may have been referring to our MEC Vice Chair, not L.H ..... Wiki does make mistakes of course.

I "Opus the Penguin (Opus T. Penguin) is a character in the comic strips and children's books."

I agree with the rest of the stuff you said.

Opus is also a very expensive wine. I probably could have bought a bottle with the bone-us check... One bottle.

I meant it in the context of a "magnum opus".

 

[Bob Dylan]

A quote from LH's speech to the SWAPA BPD from the Fastread:

"and the benefits are not obvious and understood to all from day one."

This is very concerning to me as the benefits should be VERY obvious to all!
The raises, schedules, benefits, QOL, more secure future, etc, are all quite obvious to me and I definetely understand this.

I don't want the egos of the MEC screwing this up for everyone.

Many people watching from the cheap seats agree that the senior AirTran bubbas will likely destroy the deal altogether by getting greedy. It's really a shame that a small minority of Trannie CAs will screw this up for both pilot groups.

Gotta appreciate how they stress to the junior pilots to not talk about it either. Hmm, wonder why?

 

[waveflyer]

So you expect all of us to be at least Jr. Captains after SLI? Cool!!!!!!

I'm a junior FO and I'll make $140k with the best/least fatiguing schedule I've ever had and enjoy coming to work and love who runs the company-

Now--- what Gup said

 

[Kharma Police]

Many people watching from the cheap seats agree that the senior AirTran bubbas will likely destroy the deal altogether by getting greedy. It's really a shame that a small minority of Trannie CAs will screw this up for both pilot groups.

Gotta appreciate how they stress to the junior pilots to not talk about it either. Hmm, wonder why?

Guess who's back. Back again. Bobby's back. Tell a friend. Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back ..........

(apologies to Eminem)

 

[malibuVride]

I realize I only posted one line from LH's speech, but I had no intention of taking his words 'out of context'. Most of his speech stressed the desire of AT pilots to work toward the goal of one airline and one pilot group, which is great. Nearly every AT pilot knows this is an amazing opportunity and wants to see this happen quickly.
I don't want to see this pilot group characterized as greedy or militant. Having LH state that the benefits may not be obvious is complete crap! Additionally, his comments regarding SWAPA's 2012 contract negotiations seems just as inappropriate. GK and SWA have taken a chance on the AT pilots, knowing all the bad vibes and aggression stem from a very oppressive management bent on beating down labor. Tallking about upcoming contract talks at a company SWA has yet to even acquire, while looking at raises and QOL beyond any reasonable expectations, doesn't do much to show how reasonable and thankful this group is.

I think the LEC meeting will be very interesting!

 

[jball2]

Is there any way to cut and paste LH's comments on here or is that forbidden? From the little I know about LH, I'd like to read it. SWAPA has said nothing about the meeting other than it was cordial and professional. I really think they are going to work this out. I have faith in both sides to be reasonable and get this done.

 

[maru657]

Many people watching from the cheap seats agree that the senior AirTran bubbas will likely destroy the deal altogether by getting greedy. It's really a shame that a small minority of Trannie CAs will screw this up for both pilot groups.

Gotta appreciate how they stress to the junior pilots to not talk about it either. Hmm, wonder why?

By the same token, Others argue that the junior SW bubbas will attempt to destroy this by getting greedy and that a small minority of SW Co's and Capts will screw this up for both pilot groups.

 

[Cometman]

By the same token, Others argue that the junior SW bubbas will attempt to destroy this by getting greedy and that a small minority of SW Co's and Capts will screw this up for both pilot groups.

The truth is Airtran brings nothing to the table that will benefit SWA. Nothing. That is why 100% of the employees from Airtran are excited by being bought by SWA. They want the deal to go through today if not sooner. You know it and everybody else knows it.

 

[dicko]

The truth is Airtran brings nothing to the table that will benefit SWA. Nothing.

You might like to tell Gary Kelly, the SWA Board of Directors and shareholders. If what you say is true then you need to inform the SEC as well.

I hear Carnie music. :laugh:

 

[Ty Webb]

Many people watching from the cheap seats agree that the senior AirTran bubbas will likely destroy the deal altogether by getting greedy. It's really a shame that a small minority of Trannie CAs will screw this up for both pilot groups.

Gotta appreciate how they stress to the junior pilots to not talk about it either. Hmm, wonder why?

You have got to be the most uninformed person on here, next to Cometman. Why do you even bother posting?

How are senior AirTran pilots going to get greedy, given that there are no senior pilots on the merger committee, or in ANY leadership position, and make up less than a quarter of the pilot group?

LEC Chairman - FO
LEC Vice Chair - junior CA
MEC Chair - FO
MEC Vice Chair - FO

You need more than a weather man, you need a proctologist
to help you pull your head out of there before you suffocate.

 

[Cometman]

You might like to tell Gary Kelly, the SWA Board of Directors and shareholders. If what you say is true then you need to inform the SEC as well.

I hear Carnie music. :laugh:

When you have some time by yourself you should make 2 columns and list the good things you get and the good things SWA gets. See which has the biggest column. I understand why you and the other guy they call ty tries to get all of you excited but even they know the truth. However, they have to keep the guys excited. Most of the pilots realize what they are getting and they hope guys like you don't screw it up. And before you say it, I do not work for SWA. It might sound like I do but facts are facts son.

 

[SWA/FO]

Let me help...

AT management = everything
AT Pilots = everything
SWA = something
Pilots of SWA = nothing
Lawyers = $$$ lots $$$

 

[relief tube]

A quote from LH's speech to the SWAPA BPD from the Fastread:

"and the benefits are not obvious and understood to all from day one."

This is very concerning to me as the benefits should be VERY obvious to all!
The raises, schedules, benefits, QOL, more secure future, etc, are all quite obvious to me and I definetely understand this.

I don't want the egos of the MEC screwing this up for everyone.

wonder the last time the Airtran MEC flew the line for Airtran? I say give him 2 weeks out working for each, and then separate paychecks mailed to his home for both periods. Then he'll know what obvious benefits are.

Course overnights in LBB and trips not being commutable on both ends does suck.

 

[dicko]

When you have some time by yourself you should make 2 columns and list the good things you get and the good things SWA gets. See which has the biggest column. I understand why you and the other guy they call ty tries to get all of you excited but even they know the truth. However, they have to keep the guys excited. Most of the pilots realize what they are getting and they hope guys like you don't screw it up. And before you say it, I do not work for SWA. It might sound like I do but facts are facts son.

You need to read what you wrote: "The truth is Airtran brings nothing to the table that will benefit SWA. Nothing."


If SWA will not benefit then why are they paying for AAI ? Or is the problem the fact that you cannot distinguish between the abbreviations for 'SWA' and 'SWAPA' ? What part are you not getting ?

Either way. I'm getting bored and you may have to carry on this discussion with yourself.

Cheers

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Even your contract won't make a commute to OAK a good thing.

 

[Cometman]

You need to read what you wrote: "The truth is Airtran brings nothing to the table that will benefit SWA. Nothing."


If SWA will not benefit then why are they paying for AAI ? Or is the problem the fact that you cannot distinguish between the abbreviations for 'SWA' and 'SWAPA' ? What part are you not getting ?

Either way. I'm getting bored and you may have to carry on this discussion with yourself.

Cheers

We were wondering which one of you (Ty or yourself) would be the first one to respond. Both of you are so easy. It really isn't even a challenge to see if we can get you to respond. I really thought Ty would be the first but you won.

 

[WayBack]

I just like watching ALPA screw up a good thing for you guys.

 

[SWA/FO]

Wonder if the senior dudes are gonna ruin it for the junior dudes (F9 style). When is F9s new seniority list coming out anyway?