Airtran hiring updates

[27 driver]

You are an insult to this profession. When one doesn't agree with you, you invoke the need for medication. I hope your fellow pilots like flying with you. In my opinion (since you feel qualified to comment on our TA) I would never want to fly with you. You appear to be dangerous to the flying public because you form opinions without getting the true facts.

Don't comment on what you are not qualified to comment on, son.

You are the one who should quit commenting on the Spirit TA as it has nothing to do with you.

And you resort to insults. You piss and moan on a public forum then call people names when they disagree with you. (ON A PUBLIC FORUM) I guess only you and people who agree with can form an educated decision. Only people who agree are safe and educated pilots. Pretty much everyone I talk to would vote no on your precious TA. I will let you in on a little secret Lost, everyone in this profession is qualified to comment only your TA. You simply can't handle constructive criticism. Just keep crying and calling names. That will continue to be effective. Once again thats why these issues are put to a vote. If it is good for the majority it will pass.

Waaaa, your not qualified, Waaaa, your an idiot, Waaaaa don't comment on a public forum unless you agree with me. Sound familiar.

 

[johnsonrod]

Hey ladies,

Quit crying in your beers....

 

[Limeyflyer]

How did this thread turn into Spirits TA?

 

[likeitis]

How did this thread turn into Spirits TA?

Because if that joke is approved it will greatly hinder the FL pilots ability to negotiate anything worthy of signing. You will see FL management with bumper stickers that say Spirit +1. I feel extremely sorry for the FL negotiators who just got a big chunk of wind let out of their sails.

 

[ParrotheadGTI]

158 through march 2011, beginning in september, one class scheduled per month.

 

[boomlrd]

lostplnetairman is one of Spirit's "Elite 8", that is an Embry-Ridiculous 250 hr wonder, he would fly a big jet for free! clueless!

 

[bubbers44]

lostplnetairman is one of Spirit's "Elite 8", that is an Embry-Ridiculous 250 hr wonder, he would fly a big jet for free! clueless!

I think starting at Embry Riddle doesn't make you unqualified forever. He must have gotten a lot of experience since then. I went from ER to cropdusting to instructing to charter. Of coarse that was in 66. Once you get descent time and qualifications it doesn't matter where you started. Right out of ER you should not be flying passengers.

 

[PCL_128]

Because if that joke is approved it will greatly hinder the FL pilots ability to negotiate anything worthy of signing. You will see FL management with bumper stickers that say Spirit +1. I feel extremely sorry for the FL negotiators who just got a big chunk of wind let out of their sails.

Actually, the ratification of the Spirit TA helps us quite a bit. The NMB has been vindicated to the politicians, in that the process did exactly as it was supposed to do: an impasse led to a short strike with minimal disruption to commerce, and the ultimate result was a TA that was ratified by a big margin. The NMB has the wind at their back now. Expect more releases, and more pressure on managements.

 

[lostplnetairman]

lostplnetairman is one of Spirit's "Elite 8", that is an Embry-Ridiculous 250 hr wonder, he would fly a big jet for free! clueless!

Reading is fundamental. Obviously you can't and should not be a pilot!

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

Actually, the ratification of the Spirit TA helps us quite a bit. The NMB has been vindicated to the politicians, in that the process did exactly as it was supposed to do: an impasse led to a short strike with minimal disruption to commerce, and the ultimate result was a TA that was ratified by a big margin. The NMB has the wind at their back now. Expect more releases, and more pressure on managements.

Without getting into too much detail, what was airtran MEC just told by the NMB? I don't know if the spirit strike really helped airtran pilots. Also the recently TA'ed scope section is the beginning of the end if passed. In my humble opinion.

 

[Fly4$]

Does anybody have any insight what the 737/717 mix will be? Just wondering how long I can expect to be on reserve in the 737.

 

[scarlet]

reserve right now is going to go over 3 years but we didn't hire for a year and half.

 

[27 driver]

Does anybody have any insight what the 737/717 mix will be? Just wondering how long I can expect to be on reserve in the 737.

With the new scope TA you can expect reserve for a long time. We are supposed to take 7 airplanes next year but they always seem to find a way to defer orders. I will believe it when I am flying them. I would be willing to bet the next 15% of our growth will go the regionals. Just a guess though.

 

[Murphy]

With the new scope TA you can expect reserve for a long time. We are supposed to take 7 airplanes next year but they always seem to find a way to defer orders. I will believe it when I am flying them. I would be willing to bet the next 15% of our growth will go the regionals. Just a guess though.

Copy dat.

If you were a high powered exec with the shiny degree from Harvard, would you fly a 717 with say a combined pilot hourly rate of $249 (Hawaiian rates, 10yr CAPT, 5yr FO) or would you farm out some flying to a tiny little 76 seater with a combined pilot hourly rate of $123 (Skywest, 10yr CAPT, 5 YR FO)?

 

[damnflyboy]

Copy dat.

If you were a high powered exec with the shiny degree from Harvard, would you fly a 717 with say a combined pilot hourly rate of $249 (Hawaiian rates, 10yr CAPT, 5yr FO) or would you farm out some flying to a tiny little 76 seater with a combined pilot hourly rate of $123 (Skywest, 10yr CAPT, 5 YR FO)?

Amen.

 

[Boxer]

Copy dat.

would you fly a 717 with say a combined pilot hourly rate of $249 (Hawaiian rates, 10yr CAPT, 5yr FO) or would you farm out some flying to a tiny little 76 seater with a combined pilot hourly rate of $123 (Skywest, 10yr CAPT, 5 YR FO)?

Bingo. We have a winner.

 

[filejw]

Copy dat.

If you were a high powered exec with the shiny degree from Harvard, would you fly a 717 with say a combined pilot hourly rate of $249 (Hawaiian rates, 10yr CAPT, 5yr FO) or would you farm out some flying to a tiny little 76 seater with a combined pilot hourly rate of $123 (Skywest, 10yr CAPT, 5 YR FO)?

One color one list...every property....

 

[Smarta$$]

And who is giving up the scope again? Not regional pilots!!! When will major pilots learn to say NO.

However, the fact that it takes 1.5+ 76 seaters to generate the revenue of a 717 will offset the pilot cost difference somewhat.

 

[flyin4jsus]

I don't know much about the TA in regarding the scope, just what I've read here of course. But is it saying that AT can fly 42 airframes up to 76 seats?

Is this something that they want to do or have the option? I know in 2002-2004 when Air Wisconsin was flying as Air Tran Jet Connect. They wanted us to fly 10 70 seater's I believe. It wasn't really profitable on either side and the numbers worked better with the 717!

I know our former CEO and Owner has joined the Board of Directors at Air Tran recently. Curious what the benefit is for that!

 

[Murphy]

I don't know much about the TA in regarding the scope, just what I've read here of course. But is it saying that AT can fly 42 airframes up to 76 seats?

Is this something that they want to do or have the option? I know in 2002-2004 when Air Wisconsin was flying as Air Tran Jet Connect. They wanted us to fly 10 70 seater's I believe. It wasn't really profitable on either side and the numbers worked better with the 717!

I know our former CEO and Owner has joined the Board of Directors at Air Tran recently. Curious what the benefit is for that!

Max of 20 86 seaters permitted. 15 now and then 5 additional with mainline aircraft increasing at a 3:1 ratio. 20% of ASMs can be farmed out to the RJ world. 86 seaters capped at a certain % of that 20%.

One of Prater's elves said this was an insignificant amount and the ignorant masses shouldn't concern themselves with this little bit of trivia.

I'm amazed that Southwest could grow to 6000 pilots, 500+ aircraft, make money, have what appears on the surface to have a management team that values their employees, and accomplish all this without RJs. Truly mindboggling. Of course, their next growth might occur with the service of our comrades north and south of the border.