Airtran got played?

[PCL_128]

FYI, there were no tapes of Southwest threatening AirTran presented in the arbitration at all. The only tape submitted into evidence was of Russ saying that the 717s would be around until the leases expired.

 

[vixin]

That they would for sure be or might be. Big difference. My guess is SWA management never made it a guarantee.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Not throwing a party, in fact don't have high hopes at all, hence the "if", I should have capitalized it to make it a BIG "IF".

 

[PCL_128]

That they would for sure be or might be. Big difference. My guess is SWA management never made it a guarantee.

While true that they never used the word "guarantee" or something similar (and that was his excuse in testimony), there were also no caveats given in his comments on tape, either. Like I said, I certainly don't consider it to be some sort of smoking gun, but it certainly wasn't good for SWA and their Golden Rule claims.

 

[Lear70]

That they would for sure be or might be. Big difference. My guess is SWA management never made it a guarantee.

I've been telling you guys for YEARS that we RECORDED some of the road shows where Russ M and other SWA management reps were VERY clear that the 717's were remaining "at least until their leases expire", and we had a detailed list courtesy of AAi management of each hull number and when each one went away.

You guys have said many times that you didn't believe me, but like I said, when it was appropriate, that tape would come back out for posterity, and now it has.

It will be very, very interesting if the arbitrator makes any mention in his ruling of the "misleading statements" from SWA management made to influence AirTran to take a deal rather than go to arbitration.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Sorry if this hurts your feelings but did you even read what the funnyman wrote?

Yes, I read it to fast and Funnyman knows there was no tape asserting the threats, only the road show tape concerning the 71's staying until lease expiration. We wanted to video tape it, but for some reason that didn't happen and we only got audio.

 

[FlyinGuy]

It will be very, very interesting if the arbitrator makes any mention in his ruling of the "misleading statements" from SWAPA management made to influence AirTran to take a deal rather than go to arbitration.

Do you mean SWA management?

 

[Lear70]

Yeah, changed it.

 

[funnyman12]

So luv2BFlyn is CJ? Seems like it could be her.

 

[SWA/FO]

Winsor speaks the truth. I thought you were going to sell real estate? Did you change your mind? Are you gonna cross over?

 

[PCL_128]

Winsor speaks the truth. I thought you were going to sell real estate? Did you change your mind? Are you gonna cross over?

I haven't said anything about real estate, but no, I'm not crossing the partition. Don't worry, I'm not changing my mind!

 

[Kharma Police]

I've been telling you guys for YEARS that we RECORDED some of the road shows where Russ M and other SWA management reps were VERY clear that the 717's were remaining "at least until their leases expire", and we had a detailed list courtesy of AAi management of each hull number and when each one went away.

You guys have said many times that you didn't believe me, but like I said, when it was appropriate, that tape would come back out for posterity, and now it has.

It will be very, very interesting if the arbitrator makes any mention in his ruling of the "misleading statements" from SWA management made to influence AirTran to take a deal rather than go to arbitration.

Is there a recording of the MEC meeting when you helped lead the charge to torpedo AP1?

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

So luv2BFlyn is CJ? Seems like it could be her.

That's funny. No, this isn't CJ. She's much smarter than me. I'm just an average line pilot that has paid attention to my union, future, and career since long before Sept. 2011.

 

[Kharma Police]

That's funny. No, this isn't CJ. She's much smarter than me. I'm just an average line pilot that has paid attention to my union, future, and career since long before Sept. 2011.

That's unfortunate that you think she is brighter than you. I think you are highly intelligent and a nice person.

 

[slaquer5]

It will be very, very interesting if the arbitrator makes any mention in his ruling of the "misleading statements" from SWA management made to influence AirTran to take a deal rather than go to arbitration.

It really does not matter what the arbitrator says. This is just step one of many.

SWA can just say NO to anything that the arbitrator rules on .