AirTran Furloughs coming

[meanstreak]

How many downgrades?

 

[JoeMerchant]

I couldn't agree more with you. I will expect to see this from more airlines shortly, Frontier being the first.

How will a few percent cut, offset billions in fuel costs.

It is merely another way for management to continue to the 9/11 rape of the industry.

Good luck to you, in fact good luck to us all,

AAflyer

Here is how the argument will be framed....

Nobody will dispute the fact that pilot pay cuts will not save us from $140-200 oil and that even if we work for free at these oil prices most airlines will go out....

What will be said is that they are trying to preserve cash so as to survive long enough to outlast the competition and the oil bubble (if it is a bubble).

This is the Frontier "extend the runway" argument....

The problem is that most pilots, especially the upper half, will probably want to take the gamble in hopes of outlasting the current situation.....This is where our current seniority system hurts us....It's easier to take the gamble to possibly "extend the runway" than to have to start over again at the bottom....

 

[veneratio]

say no to concessions

 

[Frequency]

They are going to have to fire up the training department again for all the displacements and involuntary equipment transfers. Im pretty sure the last year of hiring was mostly 737's. Their training costs are about to go up quite a bit.

 

[400ADude]

next tactic on the hit list will be ratify the pay cuts or we fire the probationary guys...Just watch...

RV

That is pretty f'cked up if the did that. Then again look at who you guys are dealing with. Old Eastern management. Good luck.

 

[stratus72]

....want to bet that beer now?

YES!!!!

 

[stratus72]

Oops, thought you wrote "get" not "bet." I think we could all use a beer. Best of luck to all of you. we here at F9 are on very thin ice, so I know the feeling.

 

[PCL_128]

Oops, thought you wrote "get" not "bet." I think we could all use a beer. Best of luck to all of you. we here at F9 are on very thin ice, so I know the feeling.

Joey, could I make it a scotch instead? I could use something stronger than Budweiser horse piss.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Joey, could I make it a scotch instead? I could use something stronger than Budweiser horse piss.

....hey at least we can agree that Bud is horse piss....:beer:

You can buy me a Sam Adams instead....

 

[gearup5]

voting no, don't even need to see what the company is proposing. I am already paid to little. My year over year raise has not kept up with the cost of gas and groceries. Eat sh-t bob.

 

[71driver]

RV,

You are 100% correct they will use them as negotiating tools sad but that is their MO just be sure to tell your F/O's that it is B.S.
The pay cuts will get shot down we are already under a concessionary pay

 

[Tanker Clown]

voting no, don't even need to see what the company is proposing. I am already paid to little. My year over year raise has not kept up with the cost of gas and groceries. Eat sh-t bob.

It refreshing to hear an ATL based pilot group talk like this. Your friends in the double breasted smoking jackets are probably proposing wage concessions to Dick Anderson right now.

 

[PCL_128]

It refreshing to hear an ATL based pilot group talk like this. Your friends in the double breasted smoking jackets are probably proposing wage concessions to Dick Anderson right now.

You mean the guys that just secured pay raises for themselves and other improvements? Take you DAL/NWA hatred elsewhere. I think most AAI pilots support them and are very happy to see them raising the bar.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Secured pay raises? They don't make what they did in 2000. Sounds like a pay cut to me. Maybe if they had a union they could do better.

 

[Colonel Savage]

Secured pay raises? They don't make what they did in 2000. Sounds like a pay cut to me. Maybe if they had a union they could do better.

As usual, you make no sense at all. Babble Babble Babble