Airline Pilots, Wht is your job worth????

[Kream926]

who your workin for........is it really that bad

 

[Green Banana]

Hay, Dont get me wrong. I always said I would FLY for free because I love it, but there comes a time when you need to pay the morgage, put braces on the kids, pay for your wife's mamogram, exc.......

We as pilots sacrifice sleep, family, and health among other things to do this job. try doing a four day trip with eight legs a day and 14 hours of duty. Try getting "Drafted" to work on your day off when you are in a wedding. Spend Christmas in a smelly hotel eating out of a vending machine. Work on your kid's graduation day. Would you still do it for free? No, it is not ALL about money, buy we must stand up for FAIR COMPENSATION. The job is not all about Flying. Gear up to gear down, its great, but you must see the big picture.

 

[Green Banana]

WOW, Way back is faster on the keys. Good points Bro

 

[Kream926]

just im me dude...you obvioulsly still here......

PM me if you need it

 

[The_Russian]

Industry-wide destruction.

So I am in the crew room the other day having a conversation with some fellow pilots in my company. I start complaining about pay and QOL and a discussion follows. At the end of the discussion I learned one thing. Pilots are worthless. None of you puke, sad, worthless and lazy pilots want to get off your a$$ and stand together against this BS. I have a 100K education to pay off and I don't see that happening on 17K a year. People tell me I "chose" this profession and that I should put up with it or leave. You know what??? I don't have to put up with it. I am a professional and I deserve to be able to EAT!!! I took a job because it is in the field that I am trained in and I expect to be compensated.

Dash Trash is right. F- management. Lets walk out. Lets strike. Lets picket. Stop settling for the "pay your dues" BS. It isn't true. The guys saying that got paid 30K a year to sit right seat in a metro in the 80's. And that was a lot of money back then.

I have a depressed and horrible life. I am tired of it. I also know there are others like me. Anyone who wants to do something about this needs to spread the word. I will support the effort to make the change for a better life.

 

[Kream926]

It doesn't matter who you work for. It's the same through out the industry.

hockey did it

 

[The_Russian]

KAF are you at DCA?

 

[Kream926]

this topic isnt very reassuring....im already 67K deep in training bout to go on my cfi ride............what should i do

 

[Kream926]

no in TULSA....no airline affiliation

 

[Green Banana]

So I am in the crew room the other day having a conversation with some fellow pilots in my company. I start complaining about pay and QOL and a discussion follows. At the end of the discussion I learned one thing. Pilots are worthless. None of you puke, sad, worthless and lazy pilots want to get off your a$$ and stand together against this BS. I have a 100K education to pay off and I don't see that happening on 17K a year. People tell me I "chose" this profession and that I should put up with it or leave. You know what??? I don't have to put up with it. I am a professional and I deserve to be able to EAT!!! I took a job because it is in the field that I am trained in and I expect to be compensated.

Dash Trash is right. F- management. Lets walk out. Lets strike. Lets picket. Stop settling for the "pay your dues" BS. It isn't true. The guys saying that got paid 30K a year to sit right seat in a metro in the 80's. And that was a lot of money back then.

I have a depressed and horrible life. I am tired of it. I also know there are others like me. Anyone who wants to do something about this needs to spread the word. I will support the effort to make the change for a better life.

WOW dude, That is harsh, even for me. But if more pilots had this mind set we would all be much better off.

I hope you are as vocal and active in your Union. One person will get fired for saying that stuff. If the whole pilot group says it as a whole, the airline has NO CHOICE but to respect you and give you a fair contract

 

[The_Russian]

I do talk like that when it comes to my union. Im HARDCORE!!!

And people look at me funny when I speak my mind like I am crazy. They say "we will never get that kind of money" or, " we are all gonna lose our jobs". SO WHAT. So what if we lose our jobs. We have to take a stand or we are gonna fall so d@mn hard we'll shake China to the ground.

 

[Kream926]

im just lookin to fly something bigger than a semiole....and i guess some how get payed for it. i know that there is going to be a totem pole to climb but how high is it

 

[Green Banana]

this topic isnt very reassuring....im already 67K deep in training bout to go on my cfi ride............what should i do

Just know what you are getting into. This is not the "Catch me if you can" Era. It is WORK and it can be UGLY. Ask the Guys at Eastern, Braniff, Pan Am, Frontier, TWA, Texas Air, Air Florida, National, Wein, ........................

 

[Green Banana]

I do talk like that when it comes to my union. Im HARDCORE!!!

And people look at me funny when I speak my mind like I am crazy. They say "we will never get that kind of money" or, " we are all gonna lose our jobs". SO WHAT. So what if we lose our jobs. We have to take a stand or we are gonna fall so d@mn hard we'll shake China to the ground.

Dude, I can see that big Vein on your head about to burst!!!!

 

[Kream926]

Just know what you are getting into. This is not the "Catch me if you can" Era. It is WORK and it can be UGLY. Ask the Guys at Eastern, Braniff, Pan Am, Frontier, TWA, Texas Air, Air Florida, National, Wein, ........................

i think i just found out

 

[The_Russian]

The fact of someone paying for their own training has nothing to do with the compensation to be recieved for the job. In fact, first year pay is low at all airlines because you, in a sense, are "paying for your training". You can blame somone for taking a 20 dollar an hour rj job, but they really have no choice. It is simply career progression. These are also the ONLY jobs available for entry level pilots. Corporate jobs require much more experience than airline jobs.

 

[The_Russian]

KAF do you go to COmair or not????

 

[Kream926]

anyone optemistic (sp)?

 

[The_Russian]

Dude just answer the question please.

 

[Kream926]

KAF do you go to COmair or not????

read up a few
no

i got to school in tulsa.....no airline affiliation and no promise of an interview and no promises of a ton of multi turbine time.....just lisences