Airline Industry watchers wonder who will fold next

[Benhuntn]

Somewhere out there a kid is opening his fruit loops and the fruit is missing. Amish it is time to return to the box.....

 

[MJ42]

Somewhere out there a kid is opening his fruit loops and the fruit is missing. Amish it is time to return to the box.....

My guess is he's the "road apple".

 

[MountainFreak]

Somewhere out there a kid is opening his fruit loops and the fruit is missing. Amish it is time to return to the box.....

You know, I am progressive by nature, but I really try to see both sides. Many conservatives I like, and they have well reasoned opinions. But I infer by your tagline that you look to Rush for "information" and guidance. Fine if true, but just realize Rush is an entertainer and comedian only. If you parrot him it makes your opinions a joke, and no one who actually thinks can take you seriously.

ps I too was a bit insulted by Rake's view that military people only take orders and can't think. The military is pretty damn amazing in what it does, despite inefficiencies. The sharpest people I know are military, and I am proud to work next to them.

 

[Dizel8]

At least Obama was against the war all along. Although there was Bi-partisan disagreement with his stance at least he, like McCain, took a stance and stood by his convictions. I'll give him that.

Obama did not vote on the war, he was not in office at the time. The vote was in 2002, he took office in November 2004.

 

[Dumb Pilot]

Obama took office in November 2004.

Pretty short upgrade, from taking his first office in 2004 to the presidency in 2008. Not a bad accomplishment from someone that is referred to as not having accomplished anything

 

[Dizel8]

SE Cessna to 747 Captain in four years, that would indeed be pretty impressive.

 

[007]

Anyone who thinks that the weapons inspections were actually working has a really poor memory.

Yeah, because they really found the motherload when they invaded.

 

[Benhuntn]

Mountain...I don't give a rat's kisster what you are. I didn't imply anything in my statement you infered it. Now I will never defend Rush, he is a big boy and does that quite nicely. I just have issues with dumba$$ libs that will tag every misfortune on the pres. Have a nice progressive day. And while your being progressive go out and show the world how progressive you are. Give away your life's savings. Why not if H D R C or B H O get in office we are going to empty our pockets anyway.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

ps I too was a bit insulted by Rake's view that military people only take orders and can't think. The military is pretty damn amazing in what it does, despite inefficiencies. The sharpest people I know are military, and I am proud to work next to them.

As prefaced, no offense was intended. It was actually a compliment if you wanted it to be. In order for the military to function as it is theoretically expected to, you REQUIRE a group of soliders who have been inculcated with allegiance to thier superiors and the mission. This requires someone who is trained to follow orders properly and not question them. This is the truth and it makes for a better army. You're not an individual in the military - you are one of many thousands who were broken down and built up to be what THEY want you to be. This is how doctrines are psychologically imposed upon individuals.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Somewhere out there a kid is opening his fruit loops and the fruit is missing. Amish it is time to return to the box.....

Why not respond with a cogent remark instead of something that shows your true intelligence. Is it that you hadn't a good response to the 12 billion that vanished?

What you don't know is that I'm a registered Republican and used to watch Rush's program and listen to his radio show often. I've even ate some OC's in my time too.

I think it's time you wake up to what's really going on, Mr. Benhuntin.

 

[Kugelblitz]

Regardless of what your stance is on the Iraq war, it does seem ironic that on the one hand we are/have been fighting middle eastern interest to protect American sovereignty from middle eastern extremist yet we seem to have given control of our economy to those same interest per our poor energy policy. In other words, fighting against an enemy that we are supplying arms to.

This is a somewhat confabulated crises in that we have had oil interest for the last 20 years bribing our government through various lobbyist to avoid any sort of alternative energy research. Now suddenly the only way to fix our problem is to give big oil any and every resource they need to obtain more oil and maintain their hegemony over our economy.

Remember St. Ronaldd Reagans' symbolic tearing down of the solar panels on the white house and ended all of our extant alternative energy programs? St. Bush 1's sarcastic statement about saving owls and not jobs? Now we reap the bitter medicine of the short sighted opportunist that dictate 'conservative' economic policies.

It is not a matter of 'believing' in global warming anymore, it is about the viability of our economic future as a nation and our own industry.

 

[sitnresrv]

To all my conservative friends, you all know you will never convince the left to see it from the healthy perspective. They actually believe what they say, as crazy as it is. But I am here to help explain why they are such an angry and bitter group. This explains it all to me, enjoy please:

Conservatives Happier Than Liberals

Jeanna Bryner
Senior Writer
LiveScience.com Wed May 7, 8:32 AM ET

Individuals with conservative ideologies are happier than liberal-leaners, and new research pinpoints the reason: Conservatives rationalize social and economic inequalities.
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Regardless of marital status, income or church attendance, right-wing individuals reported greater life satisfaction and well-being than left-wingers, the new study found. Conservatives also scored highest on measures of rationalization, which gauge a person's tendency to justify, or explain away, inequalities.
The rationalization measure included statements such as: "It is not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others," and "This country would be better off if we worried less about how equal people are."
To justify economic inequalities, a person could support the idea of meritocracy, in which people supposedly move up their economic status in society based on hard work and good performance. In that way, one's social class attainment, whether upper, middle or lower, would be perceived as totally fair and justified.
If your beliefs don't justify gaps in status, you could be left frustrated and disheartened, according to the researchers, Jaime Napier and John Jost of New York University. They conducted a U.S.-centric survey and a more internationally focused one to arrive at the findings.
"Our research suggests that inequality takes a greater psychological toll on liberals than on conservatives," the researchers write in the June issue of the journal Psychological Science, "apparently because liberals lack ideological rationalizations that would help them frame inequality in a positive (or at least neutral) light."
The results support and further explain a Pew Research Center survey from 2006, in which 47 percent of conservative Republicans in the U.S. described themselves as "very happy," while only 28 percent of liberal Democrats indicated such cheer.
The same rationalizing phenomena could apply to personal situations as well.
"There is no reason to think that the effects we have identified here are unique to economic forms of inequality," the researchers write. "Research suggests that highly egalitarian women are less happy in their marriages compared with their more traditional counterparts, apparently because they are more troubled by disparities in domestic labor."

 

[sqwkvfr]

As prefaced, no offense was intended. It was actually a compliment if you wanted it to be. In order for the military to function as it is theoretically expected to, you REQUIRE a group of soliders who have been inculcated with allegiance to thier superiors and the mission. This requires someone who is trained to follow orders properly and not question them. This is the truth and it makes for a better army. You're not an individual in the military - you are one of many thousands who were broken down and built up to be what THEY want you to be. This is how doctrines are psychologically imposed upon individuals.

I really think that this is the most naive and incorrect assessment of a solder's personality inventory and abilities.

Orders are just that...orders. They stand, regardless of changes of which the chain of command might not be fully aware.

As Colin Powell says, "no plan survives first contact."

Therefore it is the soldier's job to find a way to carry out his orders or met his objective despite being directly immersed in a highly dynamic and even life-threatening situation.

This requires skill, on-your-feet thinking abilities, an ability to objectively judge a situation without becoming emotionally involved, creativity, intelligence and the ability to think independently.

I would say that based on your statements, you have no clue of the duties and responsibilities of the modern solder NOR have you ever been a successful or long-term part of anything other than the very bottom of a chain of command.

....which makes your opinion extremely unqualified and your point completely worthless.

 

[sqwkvfr]

Yeah, because they really found the motherload when they invaded.

The funny part about that is no one knows where they went.

If you where Hussein, why play games with the inspectors if he really didn't have any WMD? Why not just make a public spectacle of destroying them like the UN wanted?

He would have still been in power had he done so.....but neither happened.....he refused to comply.

Do you ever wonder why?

HEY, SITNRESERVE, could you please edit out those links from your article? They're really messing with the page. Thanks.

 

[Kugelblitz]

To all my conservative friends, you all know you will never convince the left to see it from the healthy perspective. They actually believe what they say, as crazy as it is. But I am here to help explain why they are such an angry and bitter group. This explains it all to me, enjoy please:

Conservatives Happier Than Liberals

Jeanna Bryner
Senior Writer
LiveScience.com Wed May 7, 8:32 AM ET

Individuals with conservative ideologies are happier than liberal-leaners, and new research pinpoints the reason: Conservatives rationalize social and economic inequalities.
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Regardless of marital status, income or church attendance, right-wing individuals reported greater life satisfaction and well-being than left-wingers, the new study found. Conservatives also scored highest on measures of rationalization, which gauge a person's tendency to justify, or explain away, inequalities.
The rationalization measure included statements such as: "It is not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others," and "This country would be better off if we worried less about how equal people are."
To justify economic inequalities, a person could support the idea of meritocracy, in which people supposedly move up their economic status in society based on hard work and good performance. In that way, one's social class attainment, whether upper, middle or lower, would be perceived as totally fair and justified.
If your beliefs don't justify gaps in status, you could be left frustrated and disheartened, according to the researchers, Jaime Napier and John Jost of New York University. They conducted a U.S.-centric survey and a more internationally focused one to arrive at the findings.
"Our research suggests that inequality takes a greater psychological toll on liberals than on conservatives," the researchers write in the June issue of the journal Psychological Science, "apparently because liberals lack ideological rationalizations that would help them frame inequality in a positive (or at least neutral) light."
The results support and further explain a Pew Research Center survey from 2006, in which 47 percent of conservative Republicans in the U.S. described themselves as "very happy," while only 28 percent of liberal Democrats indicated such cheer.
The same rationalizing phenomena could apply to personal situations as well.
"There is no reason to think that the effects we have identified here are unique to economic forms of inequality," the researchers write. "Research suggests that highly egalitarian women are less happy in their marriages compared with their more traditional counterparts, apparently because they are more troubled by disparities in domestic labor."

Perhaps 'liberals' don't live in a world of mythological beliefs and worry about people other than those that look and think like they do. The bit about egalitarian women was precious, I suppose patriarchal/ dominant men are okay. That is the 'divine' order, eh? I suppose a lot of Burkah clad women are happier than the egalitarian women in there cultures as well. Therefore it must be a good thing.

What this article is really suggesting is that anyone who would criticize Bush or conservative politics has something wrong with them. I wonder what a similar poll would have shown for the happiness quotient of conservatives vs. liberals during the height of the Clinton years? It reminds me of my father-in-law suggesting that if people don't like our present government and its' policies they should just leave the country. Funny thing is, I remember endless anti-Clinton tirades and endless e-mails lambasting Clinton and democrats but don't recollect him applying for foreign citizenship. The hypocrisy of such views are self-evident.

I personally don't see any difference in a happiness context between libs or conservs. Frankly this political distinction in our dialogue is getting us no where.

I am not sure how this was germane to the topic of oil prices anyway, unless all you can do is hammer away at the 'damn liberal' point and not face the economic issues at hand.

 

[MountainFreak]

Mountain...I don't give a rat's kisster what you are. I didn't imply anything in my statement you infered it. Now I will never defend Rush, he is a big boy and does that quite nicely. I just have issues with dumba$$ libs that will tag every misfortune on the pres. Have a nice progressive day. And while your being progressive go out and show the world how progressive you are. Give away your life's savings. Why not if H D R C or B H O get in office we are going to empty our pockets anyway.

Now that is freakin funny! You don't give a rat kisser that I'm progressive, but you tell the world in every post how conservative and smart you are, and we are supposed to care about that. Like it matters more. Right.

And since when does being liberal mean you want to give all your money away and tax the rich airline pilots? Only in conservative paranoia-world. The world of people who believe a fat entertainer is actually providing analysis on a for-profit radio show.

I said previously that I know lots of smart conservatives. You just brought the average down.

 

[MountainFreak]

The funny part about that is no one knows where they went.

If you where Hussein, why play games with the inspectors if he really didn't have any WMD? Why not just make a public spectacle of destroying them like the UN wanted?

He would have still been in power had he done so.....but neither happened.....he refused to comply.

Do you ever wonder why?

quote]

We already know. He had a distorted view of geo-politics, and thought he was in a more powerful position by letting the world believe he may have WMD's. He thought it was a counterbalance against Iran and the US.

Again, he did not have them, he just wanted the world to think he might. Huge mountains of evidence show that he lost the WMD capability in the first Gulf War and the subsequent inspections. He gambled poorly, and lost.

The real question is why did WE believe he had them. Our intel was good enough to know better. Was it willful ignorance, incompetence, or did the administration intentionally ignore all contrary evidence? Not sure if we will ever get the answer to those.

 

[Cobra17]

Sorry, but our president sits at the helm and sets the tone for this country's economic movement.

Nothing but bad news since this guy moved into the White House.

Blame Bush......starting to get a little old.

Hurricane Katrina

New Orleans was a city with a democratic mayor in a state with a democratic governor and democratic congressmen. What was their response after failing to prepare their own citizens for the disaster?

"Where's George Bush?"

I'm sure everything would have turned out much better had there been a democrat in office.

Hey....I'm out of toilet paper....where's George Bush?

 

[MountainFreak]

Blame Bush......starting to get a little old.

Hurricane Katrina

New Orleans was a city with a democratic mayor in a state with a democratic governor and democratic congressmen. What was their response after failing to prepare their own citizens for the disaster?

"Where's George Bush?"

I'm sure everything would have turned out much better had there been a democrat in office.

Hey....I'm out of toilet paper....where's George Bush?

Hmm. A quick search on the internets shows that in 2005, Louisiana had a Dem governor/mayor of New Orleans, one Dem senator, one Republican senator, and more Rep than Dem Congressmen. The same search shows that the US had a Republican President with Republican apointees over FEMA and the Corp of Engineers, and a Republican Congress.

So yes, they all get lots of blame. Including Bush.

 

[waveflyer]

. I just have issues with dumba$$ libs that will tag every misfortune on the pres.

You mean like Republican's did w/ Clinton?

a blowjob? all that turmoil over a blowjob? And ya'll fell for that slight of hand?