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Air France A-340 down in YYZ

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Fortunately the aircraft didn't burst into flames immediately, giving the crew enough time to do their jobs without any fatalities. When is a crewmember worth X dollars? When it's your butt (or company) that they are saving.
Kudos to the crew.

Publishers,
It may not be easy to do, but it is ALL too easy to completely ruin a chance to educate the public and the media properly. If it's too tough for you to handle, then don't volunteer. Why is it that they couldn't get an aviation expert (a REAL one...and being a pilot doesn't make you an expert), maybe one who is well versed in wx issues, to discuss the accident with? Why did it have to be a private pilot who has never experienced anything remotely close to what he was trying to talk about?
The media has a responsibility to report facts and to present the public with very well informed people when they do interviews. Consistently, the media fails to do this. That is a problem. And it is partially due to us pilots. Specifically the ones will very little experience that get a hard-on when the media calls them asking for their "expert" opinion. If you are well versed in what they want to talk about, then go for it, if you happen to be on air and they ask you something that you don't know, don't B.S. it, just decline to offer saying that you don't know enough about the subject to answer it properly. If you just recieved a phone call but you don't know the subject matter very well, decline and if you can, give them the name of someone who knows what they are talking about. But for God's sake, PLEASE don't go on the air with millions of viewers/listeners and spew verbal poo out of your mouth. It does a disservice to us all.
 
IMHO, the pax, the crew all survived than props to the flight crew and cabin crew they did exactly what they were trained to do and did a great job of an emergency evacuation...thank God!
 
Flying Illini said:
But for God's sake, PLEASE don't go on the air with millions of viewers/listeners and spew verbal poo out of your mouth.
If god didn't him to go on television and spew verbal poo out of his mouth, he wouldn't have gave him a verbal poo hole to spew it out of.
 
Airbus has just put out a code red alert asking anyone who has knowledge of either of the pilots flying the A340 using aggresive rudder movements during landing so their attorneys can get on with their pilot error investigation. Heresay or second hand info is also welcome. This info has worked very well in the past and as in the AA587 crash has bailed them out handsomely. Thanks.
 
Passengers are reporting that the lights went completely dark in the cabin just before landing. Perhaps a lighting strike somehow effected the fly-by-wire controls of the underpowered Airbus causing an inability of the crew to control the aircraft. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that were the case and the E-N-T-I-R-E Airbus fleet was grounded!!
 
Steveair said:
Passengers are reporting that the lights went completely dark in the cabin just before landing. Perhaps a lighting strike somehow effected the fly-by-wire controls of the underpowered Airbus causing an inability of the crew to control the aircraft. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that were the case and the E-N-T-I-R-E Airbus fleet was grounded!!

I don't particularly think so but hey, if it gets you off.
 
Steveair said:
Passengers are reporting that the lights went completely dark in the cabin just before landing. Perhaps a lighting strike somehow effected the fly-by-wire controls of the underpowered Airbus causing an inability of the crew to control the aircraft. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that were the case and the E-N-T-I-R-E Airbus fleet was grounded!!

About as nice as if the entire RJ fleet was grounded. Nice comment dumb ass!
 
There are also reports that the crew had to do the approach twice because of the WX.
 
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schmooze said:
The eerie thing about this, is that today is the anniversary of the 1985 Delta L-1011 crash in DFW. Close to the same scenario with the thunderstorms and windshear. Kind of ironic.
Coincidental, perhaps. Not very ironic.
 

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