Age 67?

[Smarta$$]

Today's gummers had NO problem taking left seats away from other gummers all those years..... Now, it is this great injustice.

******************** you.

 

[Bringupthebird]

yea that is the one, I have always had trouble whit speeling

"Integrity" is Sully's 50 footer in Half Moon Bay. He decided to change the definition for his daughter. :laugh:

 

[ILUVURBANMYERS]

The things is really as a 45 year around 1300 ish on the master seniority list guy. I have 5 weeks vacation-5 creative sick calls a month. I am flying 3 three days a month for 10 months and 4 for 2 months a year for $275K per year + 401k match and profit sharing AND not touching my retirement at all. Why would I go away? Hell, that's a vacation every month! Lets keep the gravy train rolling.....................................Just saying+my wife would KILL me if I was around all the time.

 

[flyboyike]

Today's gummers had NO problem taking left seats away from other gummers all those years..... Now, it is this great injustice.

******************** you.

Hence my question to yip about integrity.

 

[pilotyip]

Hence my question to yip about integrity.

This have something to do with my greed, saying in the left seat beyond age 60? It that what you are alluding to?

 

[Andy]

The things is really as a 45 year around 1300 ish on the master seniority list guy. I have 5 weeks vacation-5 creative sick calls a month. I am flying 3 three days a month for 10 months and 4 for 2 months a year for $275K per year + 401k match and profit sharing AND not touching my retirement at all. Why would I go away? Hell, that's a vacation every month! Lets keep the gravy train rolling.....................................Just saying+my wife would KILL me if I was around all the time.

That's damned hard to walk away from. We need to wake up to the fact that it's a very nice gravy train.


I request that people stop taking shots at PilotYIP. He's expressing his opinion and has acted honorably. I don't agree with his opinion but that doesn't mean that he should be muzzled.

 

[jbDC9]

The things is really as a 45 year around 1300 ish on the master seniority list guy. I have 5 weeks vacation-5 creative sick calls a month. I am flying 3 three days a month for 10 months and 4 for 2 months a year for $275K per year + 401k match and profit sharing AND not touching my retirement at all. Why would I go away? Hell, that's a vacation every month! Lets keep the gravy train rolling....

Holy cr@p... where is this gravy train and how do I get on it??

 

[waveflyer]

Oh I'll take all the shots at Yip I want. And for great reason. He's spends damn near every post on FI trying to devalue the profession.

 

[waveflyer]

The things is really as a 45 year around 1300 ish on the master seniority list guy. I have 5 weeks vacation-5 creative sick calls a month. I am flying 3 three days a month for 10 months and 4 for 2 months a year for $275K per year + 401k match and profit sharing AND not touching my retirement at all. Why would I go away? Hell, that's a vacation every month! Lets keep the gravy train rolling.....................................Just saying+my wife would KILL me if I was around all the time.

If you fly where I think you do- this^^^ is not what made the company great- but I'm sure it'll be my generation that'll have to take the first paycuts after this mentality weakens the place. 5 creative sick calls per month?? Way to go capt d-bag. Why don't you just give a trip or two away every month and make your $200k
Never enough though for the boomers.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Once folks get used to handouts, they forget how to work for what they want. The next natural reaction, as Wave proves, is resentment when the handout isn't big enough.

Waveflyer is a perfect moniker: riding on energy produced somewhere else!

 

[pilotyip]

Oh I'll take all the shots at Yip I want. And for great reason. He's spends damn near every post on FI trying to devalue the profession.

Yep that is me, I have single handedly destroyed this once fantastic industry. Besides it is very fashionable to beat up on old people, they are so defenseless with engaging with those middle aged quick minded masters of thought. I fly because I like to, I love hanging around airports, pilot chat rooms, bought a house in the traffic pattern at KYIP, own my own airplane, pass my skills along to the next generation of flyers. For me life is good.

BTW This is all about freedom of thought, an American trademark, given to us by the sacrifices of the veterans over year that we celebrated yesterday.

 

[flyboyike]

Yep that is me, I have single handedly destroyed this once fantastic industry.

Well, you see, one bubonic plague bacterion doesn't start an epidemic either, but....

 

[Smarta$$]

Once folks get used to handouts, they forget how to work for what they want. The next natural reaction, as Wave proves, is resentment when the handout isn't big enough.

Waveflyer is a perfect moniker: riding on energy produced somewhere else!

Wave doesn't want a hand out.

But what do you consider benefiting personally all those years from retirements, but now that it is your turn to step aside, you say no.....

Wave flyer is right on the money. As he usually is.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Way to go capt d-bag. Why don't you just give a trip or two away every month and make your $200k
Never enough though for the boomers.

Waddya call that?

You can waste your time dreaming of a mass walk-out, national seniority list, end of RJs, end of code shares, and stratospheric pay rates and at the end of the day, do you know what you've got? - USAPA.

All dreams with no connection to reality and no tangible results.

It's wave and his type that irritate me because they have no idea why pilot pay was ever significantly high to begin with, and therefore have no understanding of why it will never return to those levels. In their ignorance, they spin their wheels and waste their youth trying to pit one group against another rather than unifying the entire group on issues that they have some influence on.

The folks making decisions on retirement ages or rules will not take the opinions of a relatively small number of people (the entire airline pilot population) to heart when crafting these rules when the rules are transparent feather bedding with no basis in safety.

If you truly believe that the safety of the traveling public will be compromised by eliminating retirement ages, then you are morally obligated to work to increase the medical standards and administrative oversight of ALL pilots. If you are unwilling to risk your own career with the adoption of more stringent standards, then be honest with yourself and admit that you advocate taking from the older to give to the younger and give up the "cognitive abilities" crap.

Sorry, wave is way off on this one.

 

[flyboyike]

If you truly believe that the safety of the traveling public will be compromised by eliminating retirement ages, then you are morally obligated to work to increase the medical standards and administrative oversight of ALL pilots. If you are unwilling to risk your own career with the adoption of more stringent standards, then be honest with yourself and admit that you advocate taking from the older to give to the younger and give up the "cognitive abilities" crap.

It can be both. One can be petrified by the gummers' declining brain power AND want to have the same thing said gummers had in their time. You know, the whole career progression thing.