Aeronautical Pet Peeves

[ISaidRightTurns]

'Departing active' at an uncontrolled field. Hmm, didn't know there was an active runway.

 

[Avenger29]

Yeah, the "departing, etc. the active" at an uncontrolled airfield...

My instructor makes me use "clear of the active" after we have landed and cleared the runway, it would make much more sense to use "clear of Runway 5"- that way, others know exactly where you are. I guess that adds to my pet peeves instructors who don't teach correct procedures to students who don't know any better.

 

[Wang Chung]

Adding an "s" to the end of your airline name. i.e. "United's 342" or "Delta's 177"

Yeah, what's up with that? Is there some reason or tradition behind that, cuz I hear plenty of Delta'S, United'S, Comair'S out there and I always found it a bit odd.

Not a pet peeve really, just curious.

 

[EatSleepFly]

AAAAhhh! It's You !!!!!!!!!!!!

Who do you fly for that pays you enough to afford chips and soda ? They hiring ?

LOL.

They don't pay us much, they just work us so much that when payday comes, it seems like it. Doh!

I think they're probably hiring. Bring some KY, and some No-Dose- a 14 hour day is considered short, and whether you get a hotel or not on the road because you're fatigued is an "office decision."

One more week and I'm going to do this ----> :smash: to that evil pager, and one particular dispatcher. :laugh:

 

[FR8mastr]

the Pilots that insist on driving around with their ice lights on. Especially on the ground. The only thing you are doing is night blinding anyone at your 8 and 4 positions.

 

[JimG]

Radio hogs doing touch and goes at uncontrolled airports.

"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X departing runway x.... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X upwind runway x...ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left crosswind runway x....ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left downwind runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left base runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X turning final runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X short final touch and go runway x... ABC"

 

[FN FAL]

Freight Dogs forced to wear uniforms

I'm forced to wear a uniform, but with that, I'm forced to NOT kneel and load the plane.

I'll buy the pretty shirts on my expense account and not bend over, thank you very mucho.

 

[PDH]

Barons, Bonanzas, and 210's that take the runway when you're on a 1/2 mile final.

 

[FN FAL]

oh, I forgot to mention...my biggest pet peeve!

Mesaba and citation or three holer corporate pilots that expect me to violate my 135 ops manual and cancel, because they are better than me.

Guess what? poney up the cash or take a lap and wait your turn just like anybody else.

 

[Checks]

Instructors at FSI who make up answers to your questions.

SO TRUE!!!!!!!! DRIVES ME CRAZY!!!!!

Also, "searching for the traffic" or "got him ont he fish finder" instead of "negative contact"

 

[QuasarZ]

Radio hogs doing touch and goes at uncontrolled airports.

"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X departing runway x.... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X upwind runway x...ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left crosswind runway x....ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left downwind runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left base runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X turning final runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X short final touch and go runway x... ABC"

A comment to this... i would rather be proactive than not. I would rather have people know where I am at all times than have no clue and have a mid air.... granted you could take out a couple of those but still...

 

[Starcheck]

I agree with you Quazar, I'd rather be (just a little) annoyed with lots of traffic calls, than none at all. (this is one of my peeves).

Other "Wind Check", It's either, "still calm", or just as windy as it was. Fly the D@mn airplane.

or; Don't slam the door!

 

[minitour]

172 pilots who fly the G/S at 100 kts

Can't agree with you.

If the pilot feels that's what is safe for him/her, then so be it. Who am I to tell someone else what speed to fly the GS at?

"With you" & "This is" are two of my biggest.

Also, not using "Roger" "Negative" "Affirmative" and "Wilco" in the proper way.

I heard this the other day
"Baron 123, radar contact climb and maintain 6000, direct XYZ when able"
"Affirmative"
WTFO?

-mini

 

[Blueliner]

Those who use strobe lights during the taxi

I hate that too, but I'm forced to do it in some aircraft that have strobes and beacon on one switch.

 

[TIGV]

I'm forced to wear a uniform, but with that, I'm forced to NOT kneel and load the plane.

I'll buy the pretty shirts on my expense account and not bend over, thank you very mucho.

Bellhop the night awaaaay my pretty !

 

[sky37d]

folks that pull out onto the runway, without telling anyone on short final that they are.

 

[JimG]

A comment to this... i would rather be proactive than not. I would rather have people know where I am at all times than have no clue and have a mid air.... granted you could take out a couple of those but still...

That's my point. I announce throughout the pattern, within reason, but I keep base, final and runway clearance calls abbreviated with tail number and position only.

It's when you start out your announcement with "ABC traffic", slowly state what you're doing and end it with "ABC aiport".....everywhere.

I'm all for position reports, but when the pattern's busy and you have a guy saying ALL that information on EVERY position....nobody else can get their position report in, which creates a safety issue somewhere else.

 

[landlover]

Pilots that say "ready to go" in place of "ready for departure". Or any other slang used on the radio.

Pilots that taxi so close to the hold short line that you can't see it from the cockpit.

40 year old ramp rats that ask "are you old enough to fly ?"

 

[Brett Hull]

Pilots that say "ready to go" in place of "ready for departure". Or any other slang used on the radio.

How aboot "Tower, N123AB ready ON runway 24". I hope you're not on it. Especially if I'm rolling out on final.

 

[91100 100 set]

This is pretty dumb, but here goes...

people who say their callsigns without using the phonetic letters. Example: 123BM is "one two three bravo mike" not "bee em". That always bugged me.

Also, with all the fuss about runway incursions, you'd think that it would be okay to take the time to actually read back things like "runway 9L, position and hold..." instead of "on the hold". Tower is not a busy frequency. Save the cool abbreviated readbacks for ground (unless it involves a runway).

If you are a professional, at least try to sound like it on the radio.

 

[sky37d]

If you are a professional, at least try to sound like it on the radio.

And even if you are not a professional, there is no reason not to sound like one. Just don't sound like you are clueless, because if you do, you probably are.

 

[4fanman]

Any traffic please advise...

I just heard this peeve yesterday, again. Some guy picking up his clearance with ground control...."Ground, Citation xxx clearance on request to KXXX.." That's a phrase that the controller uses when he/she doesn't have your clearance right away, not for the pilot requesting the clearance. I've noticed that this seems to be popular with ex-mil guys. Is that how they pick up the clearance in the military?

Now, for the hard-asses that say a phrase or word isn't offical speak, neither is good afternoon, have a nice day, or enjoy your weekend. We should keep it professional, but we don't need to sound like a digital atis, either.

 

[CA1900]

This is pretty dumb, but here goes...

people who say their callsigns without using the phonetic letters. Example: 123BM is "one two three bravo mike" not "bee em". That always bugged me.

I'll take that any day over the jackhole who makes up his own cute little phonetic alphabet.

I heard "Citation XXX-Sugar-Daddy" calling up ATC the other day. That's right, Sugar Daddy. uke:

 

[Lead Sled]

I'll take that any day over the jackhole who makes up his own cute little phonetic alphabet.

I heard "Citation XXX-Sugar-Daddy" calling up ATC the other day. That's right, Sugar Daddy. uke:

However, that phraseology is perfectly acceptable IF the voice on the radio belongs to a 23-year old "hottie" and she's sitting in either one of the front seats of a jet. Honesty is always acceptable.

A 100 years ago, I occassionally flew a ratty old Mooney for a charter outfit in Las Vegas - November "something" "something" Uniform. Even the controllers called us "Mooney XX Ugly. :0

'Sled

 

[dseagrav]

This one's easy! Myself!
I hate it when I make stupid-student mistakes! I realize I am a student, but I should be doing better than everyone else!

 

[AGuyThatFlys]

Picture this...

Three aircraft in the pattern at an uncontrolled field doing touch and go's for the last five minutes. Everyone is reporting position. No problems.

And then:

"XXXX traffic, Citabria xxxx, five miles north, landing straight-in 16, XXXX."

Followed by more position reports of *aircraft doing touch and go's.*

Later: "XXXX traffic, Citabria xxxx, three miles north, landing straight-in 16, XXXX."

You've got three airplanes doing pattern work and you 're too lazy to do a standard entry. Idiot!

 

[starvingcfi]

i just read the entire thread. it seems i'm the most annoying pilot out there. sorry guys.

 

[Almerick07]

Pilots who lack the whole english language concept....On a more positive note there is a KC center guy who always asks how youre doing when you make initial contact, thats not standard phraseology but does a little personality hurt? Tulsa approach has one too, nice guys and very good at their job.

 

[Pedro]

172 pilots who fly the G/S at 100 kts

What's wrong with that? And how does it bother you if you are not flying with them?

 

[Pedro]

anyone that says 'with you'.....

Sometimes is the instructor's fault though. I've flown with people that have the habit of saying with you because that's what they were tought to do, they are not trying to be cool.