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Wang Chung said:
Yeah, what's up with that? Is there some reason or tradition behind that, cuz I hear plenty of Delta'S, United'S, Comair'S out there and I always found it a bit odd.

Not a pet peeve really, just curious.

I hear a lot of controllers using that terminology....
 
JimG said:
Radio hogs doing touch and goes at uncontrolled airports.

"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X departing runway x.... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X upwind runway x...ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left crosswind runway x....ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left downwind runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X left base runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X turning final runway x... ABC"
"ABC traffic, Cessna 1234X short final touch and go runway x... ABC"

When I was a Flight Instructor in EVB there was this dork who would always wear a safary hat and was working on his CFI.

Dork: "traffic, cessna 123 left downwind rwy 6.
Me: "traffic, cessna 456 taking rwy 6 for departure.
Dork: Ah you should be ok we are only midfield downwind right now and have you in sight, so go ahead and take off blah blah blah

I wanted to beat the crap out of that guy, the blah blah part was me stepping on his radio call, only did it a couple times though...
 
Multithousand hour pilots who NEVER advise ATC of having the atis on initial call ups and always have to respond to atc that they do indeed have the atis. And they keep doing it.
 
Blueliner said:
I hate that too, but I'm forced to do it in some aircraft that have strobes and beacon on one switch.


§ 91.209 Aircraft lights.
No person may:
(b) Operate an aircraft that is equipped with an anticollision light system, unless it has lighted anticollision lights. However, the anticollision lights need not be lighted when the pilot-in-command determines that, because of operating conditions, it would be in the interest of safety to turn the lights off.

I'd go by that, just leave your position lights on all the tiem you are taxiing. Sometimes the strobes may be just annoying on the ground, but other times it may compromise safety.
 
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...


Pilots that don't know how to properly report turbulence. eg. Moderate to severe light chop. WTF????????????????:uzi:

Here let me help:


Light Turbulence that momentarily causes
slight, erratic changes in altitude and/or
attitude (pitch, roll, yaw). Report as
Light Turbulence

Turbulence that causes slight, rapid and
somewhat rhythmic bumpiness without
appreciable changes in altitude or
attitude. Report as Light Chop.

Turbulence but of greater intensity.
Changes in altitude and/or attitude occur
but the aircraft remains in positive
control at all times. It usually causes
variations in indicated airspeed. Report
as Moderate Turbulence;

Turbulence that is similar to Light Chop
but of greater intensity. It causes rapid
bumps or jolts without appreciable
changes in aircraft altitude or attitude.
Report as Moderate Chop.

Severe Turbulence that causes large, abrupt
changes in altitude and/or attitude. It
usually causes large variations in
indicated airspeed. Aircraft may be
momentarily out of control. Report as
Severe Turbulence.

Extreme Turbulence in which the aircraft is
violently tossed about and is practically
impossible to control. It may cause
structural damage. Report as Extreme
Turbulence.
 
"When I was a Flight Instructor in EVB there was this dork who would always wear a safary hat and was working on his CFI.

Dork: "traffic, cessna 123 left downwind rwy 6.
Me: "traffic, cessna 456 taking rwy 6 for departure.
Dork: Ah you should be ok we are only midfield downwind right now and have you in sight, so go ahead and take off blah blah blah

I wanted to beat the crap out of that guy, the blah blah part was me stepping on his radio call, only did it a couple times though..."

People who don't shut up at uncontrolled strips cause frustration, but it sounds like the guy was just trying to play nice with you. Cut the guy some slack.

I remember hearing a person call "Citation123AB is XX out for rwy X. Any traffic advise."

An aviation safety councilor would always correct the guy by saying "You're not supposed to say 'Any traffic advise'!". Meanwhile, you're waiting to call unicom for a fuel order.

Also, radio useage is non-regulated. If the frequency isn't congested, there's nothing wrong with ATC talking about sports scores or pilots saying "on the meter" or whatever. If the frequency is congested, don't gab.
 
inline said:
Multithousand hour pilots who NEVER advise ATC of having the atis on initial call ups and always have to respond to atc that they do indeed have the atis. And they keep doing it.

sometimes---guilty as charged :)
 

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