Actually Official RAH gets 190's for Midwest

[CitationLover]

Wow...pretty soon we'll have the Space Shuttle being flown by RAH pilots making minimum wage. Way to go folks! What a freaking shame.

Hey, it's management, not the pilots. They're forced to fly the shuttle. Boo hoo, poor me.

 

[Popeye0537]

Hey, it's management, not the pilots. They're forced to fly the shuttle. Boo hoo, poor me.

Sniff, Sniff....please feel sorry for me. I fly(flew) a B717 and I deserve to get paid more than an major airline F/O becasue we offer cookies in flight. You dam regional pilots stole my job and I hate you....sniff, sniff

 

[GOULET!]

Republic...you scum bags. How do you even look Midwest crews in the eyes? Just remember that hundreds were furloughed so you can fly 100 people around at $37/hr. How long until this 2 airplane order turns into 10..20?

 

[MCOE175]

What ever!!! Do you honestly think we had a choice? Lets see.. Hmmm... should I quite my job becuase some tool at a "legacy"... think our MGT is scum bags. The pilots here are not scum bags. A majority of us don't want these on property. Your arguments are fruitless!
Keep on complaining.... You sound so professional! I bet the media would love to know how unified pilots are.

 

[UnstableAviator]

I'm not a friggin scab or a scumbag. I chose to apply/interview with Chautauqua 4.5 years ago because they had a diverse income and seemed to be poised for growth, just like many other regionals at the time. I'm not pleased to see the 190's here, but I fully understand we have the responsibility to vote a solid contract with pressures probably not seen by any "regional" carrier in recent years. I'm an average line pilot who has no control over our flying, but I do have control over how I cast my vote when the time comes. I hope our new union management can use their past experience and this new leverage to "raise the bar" to the new level we all need to see.

Our current, ancient labor agreement might as well be written on papyrus at this point, the regional market has changed tremendously in 6 years. At least the previous group had the foresight and the balls to make certain we are all ONE seniority list and don't have to put up with any of this Go-Jet alter-ego crap. But still, between age 65, scope relaxation, and now this, my realistic career expectations are literally changing by the month.

 

[Airline Driver]

Republic...you scum bags. How do you even look Midwest crews in the eyes? Just remember that hundreds were furloughed so you can fly 100 people around at $37/hr. How long until this 2 airplane order turns into 10..20?

Should the employees of Ford walk out and stop doing their jobs for the benefit of GM or Chrysler. Did any of the employees have a say in how the day to day business operations or visionary decisions of future business. Ummm mmmmmmmmmmm NO! We just drive the bus not to mention we have people still out on furlough too Einstein!

 

[hockeypilot44]

Ah, so you used Republic just like everyone else uses regionals. How does that make you better than anyone else?

I never flew a mainline size jet for regional wages. I flew a 50 seat regional jet for the same wages every other regional was paying. I quit Republic at the first chance I was given. I never even thought twice about it. I would have quit for Midwest had I been given the chance. Midwest wasn't the greatest airline, but it was a place you could proudly hang your hat at the end of your career. Nobody retires at Republic. Alright, one pilot retired because he was uneducated and couldn't get hired anywhere else. Not only are the wages at Republic pathetic, but you have a terrible retirement match, absolutely no work rules what-so-ever, and to make things worse, a pilot group that is in denial. You guys are airline pilots though. Good for you. Good luck supporting your families on first officer wages. Good luck supporting your families on captain wages while paying back your DCA loans. If you are a captain at Republic, you are making the most money right now that you will in your entire life flying airplanes thanks to yourself. Bedford has become more dangerous to our industry than Ornstein.

 

[imacdog]

Anger issues much? For as much as you badmouth your former employer and coworkers, you certainly didn't have a problem working for RAH when you were there, did you? So why is it so awful that others are in the position you used to be in, gaining experience so they can move onto a better job? The pilots don't make policy - they just show up and do their jobs. You would have quit for Midwest? Oh please, you can stop anytime you want. You're starting to sound a bit like PFT_128. Read my signature a few times, then feel free to continue bashing the place that helped you get to where you are now.

 

[GOULET!]

I'm not a friggin scab or a scumbag. I chose to apply/interview with Chautauqua 4.5 years ago because they had a diverse income and seemed to be poised for growth, just like many other regionals at the time. I'm not pleased to see the 190's here, but I fully understand we have the responsibility to vote a solid contract with pressures probably not seen by any "regional" carrier in recent years. I'm an average line pilot who has no control over our flying, but I do have control over how I cast my vote when the time comes. I hope our new union management can use their past experience and this new leverage to "raise the bar" to the new level we all need to see.

Our current, ancient labor agreement might as well be written on papyrus at this point, the regional market has changed tremendously in 6 years. At least the previous group had the foresight and the balls to make certain we are all ONE seniority list and don't have to put up with any of this Go-Jet alter-ego crap. But still, between age 65, scope relaxation, and now this, my realistic career expectations are literally changing by the month.

Please explain how you guys are going to "raise the bar" for us all by flying 190s....you can't. Your rates for it are disgusting. Your Captain pay is what FOs should be making on it. You can blame your management all you want but we all know you won't have the ball$ to fight for a respectable wage. As far as everybody is concerned Republic is an alter-ego for Midwest. Call it whatever you want to help you sleep better at night.

 

[nimtz]

Our current, ancient labor agreement might as well be written on papyrus at this point, the regional market has changed tremendously in 6 years. At least the previous group had the foresight and the balls to make certain we are all ONE seniority list and don't have to put up with any of this Go-Jet alter-ego crap. But still, between age 65, scope relaxation, and now this, my realistic career expectations are literally changing by the month.

YAWN! Same old tired speech delivered since CHQ Guppy Killers were signed off on. 'Just wait guys, we will get a REAL next contract.' No offense but given the juvenile mentality of your group, I'm not holding my breath on Republic/CHQ/'I'm a Jet Captain!' Club ever getting a decent contract.

In the meantime, congrats on the latest torpedoing of yet another round of airline careers. At least you guys will keep upgrading. Remember to keep talking tough about your next contract.

 

[FSIGRAD]

At least you guys will keep upgrading. Remember to keep talking tough about your next contract.

The upgrade train got derailed awhile ago. Speaking from a Shuttle America FO on 4th year pay. (Maxed out on FO payscale)

 

[n757st]

Waiting for the Republic pilots to tell me they still only want an "industry average" contract again... 37 dollars an hour for a 100 seat airplane.... absolutely astonishing. Somewhere right now a republic pilot is sitting in a jumpseat telling the pilots that "i didn't want these jets" as they are shaking because they are soooo happy to fly a real mainline airplane. Sign an industry leading contract and prove me wrong... but we all know what you "new improved" contract will have in it... 38 dollar fo's and sub 100 dollar captains. Again, I ask you to prove me wrong.

 

[kf4amu]

What ever!!! Do you honestly think we had a choice? Lets see.. Hmmm... should I quite my job becuase some tool at a "legacy"... think our MGT is scum bags. The pilots here are not scum bags. A majority of us don't want these on property. Your arguments are fruitless!
Keep on complaining.... You sound so professional! I bet the media would love to know how unified pilots are.

No you piece of ********************, if you guys would demand pay rates commensurate with the number of seats you fly, like it's always been then there would be no incentive for Midwest management to demand the wage cuts from the Midwest pilots.

Talk about not being unified, because you are willing to sell yourselves out for the "quick upgrade" to get to the majors before the regionals that actually stand up for good contracts. I hope all of you gelled hair dorks taking pictures of yourselves in the engines stay F/O's at 37 bucks an hour forever.

Just remember, the only reason a regional airline increases in size is not because it provides good service, or is safe, or it's operation is better than the others. It's only because they are the CHEAPEST, and it's all on the backs of the pilots. Good job killing another couple hundred mainline jobs.

 

[Popeye0537]

No you piece of ********************, if you guys would demand pay rates commensurate with the number of seats you fly, like it's always been then there would be no incentive for Midwest management to demand the wage cuts from the Midwest pilots.

Talk about not being unified, because you are willing to sell yourselves out for the "quick upgrade" to get to the majors before the regionals that actually stand up for good contracts. I hope all of you gelled hair dorks taking pictures of yourselves in the engines stay F/O's at 37 bucks an hour forever.

Just remember, the only reason a regional airline increases in size is not because it provides good service, or is safe, or it's operation is better than the others. It's only because they are the CHEAPEST, and it's all on the backs of the pilots. Good job killing another couple hundred mainline jobs.

Cheapest? How do you figue...Skwy flys the 900 for almost $10/hr less and Mesa at 9/hr less. Its not about being cheapest or one of those regionals would be doing the flying.
Also, how is 2 aircraft going to bring down our upgrade times? Why don't you just be happy that you still have a job.

 

[kf4amu]

Cheapest? How do you figue...Skwy flys the 900 for almost $10/hr less and Mesa at 9/hr less. Its not about being cheapest or one of those regionals would be doing the flying.
Also, how is 2 aircraft going to bring down our upgrade times?

Why are you talking about -900's?

2 aircraft wont do anything except set a bad bad precedent. Few people work at Republic for the pay. It's all about the "quick upgrade" that existed a couple years ago and selling yourselves out.

Why don't you just be happy that you still have a job.

Is that a threat to come undercut Piedmont's Dash 8 flying?

Lets see, on a per seat basis I make about 1 dollar/hr/seat on avg. Using the Republic ratio of 37$/hr/100 seats...looks like your F/O guys will fly a Dash for about 12-13 bucks an hour.

No thanks, I'd rather not have a job. On the plus side, there will probably be a quick upgrade.

 

[aewanabe]

The hypocrisy and envy on this thread is astounding.

 

[blesko]

With these aircraft and these pay rates, how is Jetblue and Usairways supposed to negotiate their E190 rates come contract time? Sure, you want that quick upgrade, for what? At this rate, you'll move from CHQ to a "Major" for less pay than you were making at a regional. Absolute BS

 

[WSurf]

Waiting for the Republic pilots to tell me they still only want an "industry average" contract again... 37 dollars an hour for a 100 seat airplane.... absolutely astonishing. Somewhere right now a republic pilot is sitting in a jumpseat telling the pilots that "i didn't want these jets" as they are shaking because they are soooo happy to fly a real mainline airplane. Sign an industry leading contract and prove me wrong... but we all know what you "new improved" contract will have in it... 38 dollar fo's and sub 100 dollar captains. Again, I ask you to prove me wrong.

I am sure most of the Mesa Pilots are dancing to this. Mesa move to the side, you now aren't officially the bottom feeders anymore.

Maybe the "Mesa Sucks" quote can be buried and replaced.

 

[GOULET!]

WSurf you could not be more correct. Republic is the new scum at the bottom of the barrel. Mesa has officially been replaced.

 

[Grinder10]

Sniff, Sniff....please feel sorry for me. I fly(flew) a B717 and I deserve to get paid more than an major airline F/O becasue we offer cookies in flight. You dam regional pilots stole my job and I hate you....sniff, sniff

You deserve to spend the rest of your career on the pathetic Republic payscale!