ABX Holdings to change name?

[abxaviator]

According to the SEC filing he will be compensated with 4 years pay if ABX is sold and he's not offered employment.

You need to take another look at the filings, Graber is NOT listed among those with the golden chutes (Hete, Turner, Morgenfeld, Manibusan..., but not Graber).

 

[HalinTexas]

Graber didn't leave before the axe fell. He screwed up so bad following the 1st BK he was "resigned." He was responsible for the fiasco that was the "B737-300's" among other things. There was also an intermediate stop before ABX.

 

[shooter]

You need to take another look at the filings, Graber is NOT listed among those with the golden chutes (Hete, Turner, Morgenfeld, Manibusan..., but not Graber).

I may be wrong, but R&W was referring to an earlier filing that named Graber in regard to ABX Air. This latest filing you are referring to is in regard to ABX Holdings. It really is nothing different than what they all had with ABX. Only now they are defining each company with their respective parachutes. So each company under the Holdings umbrella has their own governance rules. Graber just fell under what ABX Air already had in place.

Like I said, I may be wrong. But that is how I am reading it all.

 

[rotor&wing]

I may be wrong, but R&W was referring to an earlier filing that named Graber in regard to ABX Air. This latest filing you are referring to is in regard to ABX Holdings. It really is nothing different than what they all had with ABX. Only now they are defining each company with their respective parachutes. So each company under the Holdings umbrella has their own governance rules. Graber just fell under what ABX Air already had in place.

Like I said, I may be wrong. But that is how I am reading it all.

Correct. It was under a previous filing for ABX Air that gave Graber his parachute.

 

[rphigh]

What's going on in Osaka? Are guys retiring? What does outlook look like looo?

 

[Box-Hauler]

What's going on in Osaka? Are guys retiring? What does outlook look like looo?

With the 5 new crews to MIA and rumors of 5 more being added we are short on the 9, and the 76. The good news is we are very well staffed on the 8, Oh wait we got rid of the 8 and all the crews went to the 9 and 76. So how can we be short on the 9 and the 76.......

We were so severely short in MIA they moved some flying to the ILN base and had to give a few people the whole month off for all the days they owed them back due to the junior manning.

Not sure about retirements. We had one captain walk out of 76 training and retire on the spot. Guess he decided it was not worth the hassle to keep going. I believe all the new hires have gone to KIX. Not sure how long that will last. I personally think a lot of the new guys might just get the Type rating, some experience and move on. If that is the case then KIX will be a revolving door for new hires.

 

[LarryinTN]

Not sure about retirements. We had one captain walk out of 76 training and retire on the spot.

"Capt'n Jack" retired at the end of March.

 

[Clipperskip]

retire

"Capt'n Jack" retired at the end of March.

LJ, I believe boxhauler was referring to JH not JK. I believe John had better things to do than to stay up all night crossing the country as he had done for many years on the DC-8. Now if we could just convince a few others to do the same.

 

[HeavyjetDC8]

....I believe John had better things to do than to stay up all night crossing the ....

Indeed, the novelty of Coast to Coast by moonlight soon wears off.

 

[b707guy]

Now if we could just convince a few others to do the same.

Not trying to move up the list a bit faster, now, are we?

If KIX does turn out to be a revolving door, is there any chance of KIX becoming an outstation where the ILN (or whatever domestic) -based crews are shuttled in and out on some rotating schedule? We did it regularly with a few trip sequences, so it wasn't on the same scale as KIX is/will become, but it worked for us.

How many crews does/will KIX have?

 

[Clipperskip]

If KIX does turn out to be a revolving door, is there any chance of KIX becoming an outstation where the ILN (or whatever domestic) -based crews are shuttled in and out on some rotating schedule? We did it regularly with a few trip sequences, so it wasn't on the same scale as KIX is/will become, but it worked for us.

How many crews does/will KIX have?[/quote]


This is exactly what the company was doing before they opened the illegal domicile. There are presently 14 Captains and 14 First Officers listed in KIX.

 

[LarryinTN]

LJ, I believe boxhauler was referring to JH not JK.

Right. I was just adding to the list.

 

[DC8CRIVER]

CLIPPER & HEAVY,

You should try doing what we young guys are doing on the other side of the field to get rid of the geezers...

Forge their signature on the release and then when they go to sign it, give them a really long and worried look.
Move their flight bag around the bag room.
Ask if they need help going up and down the airplane stairs.
When the geezer captains call for a checklist - tell them they called for it 5 minutes ago and it's complete.
When they go to the crapper - move their glasses.
Reach across the cockpit with a napkin in your hand, tell them you can't stand to see them like this, and pretend that you are wiping drool off of their chin.
Speak really softly in the cockpit and when they say WHAT?? slowly shake your head, lean in closer and speak slowly, slightly louder, and with really big mouth movements.
Point out traffic and sights that aren't really there. Give lots of detail and point repeatedly and when they still don’t see it, repeat the long and worried look again.
Silently roll in a bunch of nose down trim just prior to giving them the controls.
Spread a thin film of butter on their glasses.
Knock on their door at random times on the layover and ask them why they didn’t meet you in the lobby for dinner like they said they would.

You get the idea...

 

[Box-Hauler]

DC8,

Now that is just plain funny........

 

[Flyer8]

Your turn....

I only hope there isn't a shortage of young wise-asses when your turn comes around...I am always amazed that an action unrelated to the person concerned causes so much animosity..If I remember correctly, the old geezers didn't change the law(They tried for years). It was those government weinies who changed it.I always said they (the old geezers) were knocking on the wrong door for the past few decades.Most stayed for the insurance benefits(Premiums for a couple over 60 usually run between $1200 & $2000 a month,if you can get it) and because they couldn't get their social security.Had they given them Medicare and SS at age 60,I'd wager that many would have welcomed retirement.Of course then they wouldn't have benefited from associating themselves with the younger generation who has all the answers and doesn't recognize the word respect let alone it's definition.:smash: