ABX Furloughs

[Fly Astar Jets]

HUH ? What did I miss ? Astar is parking all the 72's by the 18th but everything is normal. Does that mean all 72 crews are staying on payrol thru 2010 ? Seems to me thats gonna turn into a senior airplane real quick.

We negotiated a 2 year no furlough clause in which the clock on that started started March 6'th 2008. If we are successful in defending that clause it will expire on March 6'th 2010. At the moment everyone is frozen in place.

 

[727Niteflyer]

We negotiated a 2 year no furlough clause in which the clock on that started started March 6'th 2008. If we are successful in defending that clause it will expire on March 6'th 2010. At the moment everyone is frozen in place.

So all the 72 crews are going to be sitting home drawing a paycheck ? what a sweet deal.

 

[nitefr8dog]

So all the 72 crews are going to be sitting home drawing a paycheck ? what a sweet deal.

Sweet deal? I think most would rather keep flying and have a job going forward than just get a paycheck!

 

[nitefr8dog]

HUH ? What did I miss ? Astar is parking all the 72's by the 18th but everything is normal. Does that mean all 72 crews are staying on payrol thru 2010 ? Seems to me thats gonna turn into a senior airplane real quick.

And as the flying is going away do you think they are going to allow crews to rebid to differant aircraft to draw pay and not work? Do you actually work for an airline, and have any idea how they operate?

 

[GoABX]

So the DC-9 fleet is parked on January and they want their planes back in ILN. Most of the 9 guys live in 9 cities, so HTF are you going to get home?? No company airline tickets are being provided, so do you plan to walk, hitch hike or grey hound?

If none of these options works for you, perhaps another option is to fly outbound on the 10th, call in sick and jumpseat home while you still have privileges. The same holds true for you 76 guys who live in DC-9 cities...how are you getting home or to work?

 

[TWA]

I heard the 9s were going to the parking lot that is ROW.

 

[ABXbooger]

ROW it is, they are flying on there almost every Monday, Wednesday and Friday, I think.

 

[727Niteflyer]

And as the flying is going away do you think they are going to allow crews to rebid to differant aircraft to draw pay and not work? Do you actually work for an airline, and have any idea how they operate?

well thats what was said. Parking all the72s by the end of this month, but everyone is paid through to 2010. I dont know if anyone is allowed to rebid. I figured knowing how pilots operate you would see a lot of senior guys trying to bid the 72 so they can sit and not work or at least start looking for a lower paying job while they are drawing pay.

 

[727Niteflyer]

Sweet deal? I think most would rather keep flying and have a job going forward than just get a paycheck!

It is a sweet deal if you know your going to have to look for a job. At least the guys that are on the 72 have the ability of getting a job while supplementing the paycheck with an extra one from astar.

 

[SiouxMD11]

kinda of strange how Astar isn't letting anyone go. Since they depend 100% on DHL feed, while ABX has other customers and options. And they're the ones furloughing.

 

[hvydriver]

kinda of strange how Astar isn't letting anyone go. Since they depend 100% on DHL feed, while ABX has other customers and options. And they're the ones furloughing.

I don't think it's strange at all. I haven't seen anything about ABX furloughing out of seniority. If they are, my bad. As I've mentioned before on this board, our Flight Training Dept. is very small. There is no way they could train and furlough in seniority for something of this magnetude. It's cheaper for them to just pay everyone in seat here till it is time to turn out the lights. Which by all accounts is June 09 at best. They know based on past experience with us that we'd have them in court in a heartbeat for a TRO if they tried giving guys the boot out of seniority. And we'd win it. While we do have it in our current CBA that there will be no furloughs till 03/10, given DHL's track record since DPWN bought them out I have no expectations that they will do so. Sorry for intruding on an ABX thread guys. Good luck to all.