AAI Pilots Expectations for January 2015

[Wesb737fo]

Reading your post, while on a 26 hour layover at a Caribbean island resort, really drives home how truly ignorant you are of what it's like over here. :laugh:

I'm going to the beach. Y'all have fun with this one.

Ty

absolutely. Have you tried the seafood buffet at the Renaissance in Aruba?

 

[Ty Webb]

absolutely. Have you tried the seafood buffet at the Renaissance in Aruba?

In the restaurant next to the Fitness Center? No; after happy hour ends, we usually go "off campus".

How is it?

 

[FlyinGuy]

Have you guys tried the subway across the street from the hotel in LBB? Just go in the WalMart and it is right there. Awesome!!

 

[madjack]

Now that is funny

 

[redflyer65]

Have you guys tried the subway across the street from the hotel in LBB? Just go in the WalMart and it is right there. Awesome!!

That Subway is great, especially during Feb. for the 5 dollar footlongs. Best part is grabbing a 6 pack of Shiner on the way out the door at Walmart!

 

[Ty Webb]

Not to mention the free entertainment . . www.peopleofwalmart.com . . . .

 

[Roomwithaview]

Ty

It's interesting to note that the maturity level of the average FLIFO dude hasn't change since the last time I visited. In a world where we're getting ready to have Part 117 shoved down our throats and potentially we'll both be on the same seniority list around the same time frame I thought maybe we could garner some common ground to try and determine how we plan to navigate the three moving parts that are your SIA, our SL-10 and the one swapa CBA.

Let me know when you have anything to add to this thread beyond which speedo you're picking out for the next trip to the beach.

 

[Ty Webb]

Wow, who could pass on such a solicitous invitation to intelligent discourse?

Besides me, of course.

 

[fletch717]

It's interesting to note that the maturity level of the average FLIFO dude hasn't change since the last time I visited. In a world where we're getting ready to have Part 117 shoved down our throats and potentially we'll both be on the same seniority list around the same time frame I thought maybe we could garner some common ground to try and determine how we plan to navigate the three moving parts that are your SIA, our SL-10 and the one swapa CBA.

Let me know when you have anything to add to this thread beyond which speedo you're picking out for the next trip to the beach.

Lighten up Francis, if you came to this board for intelligent discourse then you are the least intelligent person here. Is it pronounced Dumas?

 

[Roomwithaview]

fletch

well this is the only board I know of where I can discuss issues with my future brethren. I didn't know this was the adopt a pilot chat room.

 

[fletch717]

Then discuss your issue and stop busting on those who make lighthearted comments.

 

[Roomwithaview]

fletch

Then discuss your issue and stop busting on those who make lighthearted comments.

I guess you have a short attention span so I'll post it again.

What I'm interested in is how y'all (transitioned pilots) envision you'll be exercising the full potential of your seniority come 2015.

I'm seriously not trying to start another swapa/alpa war, there's enough of those on here. I just want to know where y'all envision the layout of the Captain/FO list is going to be post 2015.

Pretty important stuff for many on our MSL.

......which is why I wanted to get info from the AAI side to see what their MEC is telling them.

I hear you. Are you at SWA? The reason I ask is because the Vacancies are always system wide. The fly in the ointment now is that after 2015 there will be several pilots who have not been able to exercise the full potential of their system wide seniority.

Consider a zero sum game in vacancies but the usual plus captains/fos here and minus captains/fos there. Where is the language that now prevents a former airtran guy whose been held back until now from moving into that spot in that base where they are increasing captains?

The vacancy bids have always looked at global seniority and they will now as well.

AAI guys? What say y'all?

My understanding is that Vacancy looks at the entire pilot groups Vacancy choices and then awards you the position your seniority can hold.

We are operating in a different environment now in the sense that there are pilots being assigned an artificial seniority as a F.O. the whole point behind the 2015 fence.

You're saying that these pilots will still be held back from exercising their Master Seniority even after 2015?

I don't think so. That's not the way our Vacancy system works.

7. All new vacancies put up for bid as well as all secondary vacancies left open by successful bidders will be available to all pilots in the system. No pilot will be involuntarily displaced from a domicile, equipment or crew position except as provided herein.
a. In the event that a reduction in crews occurs in a domicile, this reduction will be posted as an equipment and domicile bid, and the Master Bids on file at the time of closing will govern.
b. If an insufficient number of pilots have bid to leave the base, the most junior pilots will be displaced. Pilots so displaced may displace pilots in other domiciles where no vacancy exists based on their system seniority, thereby causing a secondary displacement.

I was hoping for more input from the AAI side......

So far, from the AAI side, it's only been about beaches and speedos.

 

[fletch717]

I don't know what I'll do come jan 2015, I don't want to commute to oak. I doubt I'll RE-UPGRADE if my only option is OAK OR LAS. As I understand it, we are all the same as of jan 2015 global seniority rules and the SWAPA contract applies to every pilot.
I'm going to put my green speedo on and head for the beach

 

[Remington]

The AirTran folks don't have to spend a required "adjustment" time in the right seat before becomming Captain after 2014? That seems messed up. Kind of like "Street Captains" at a very "different" airline.

 

[Ty Webb]

The AirTran folks don't have to spend a required "adjustment" time in the right seat before becomming Captain after 2014? That seems messed up. Kind of like "Street Captains" at a very "different" airline.

Statements like this reveal an awful lot about the experience level of the person making them, instead of their intended target. :erm: