AA Recalls

[i fly boxes]

I was wondering if a mid level American 737 or 757 capt or fo would be willing to post what a typical monthly schedule at American would be like?
Thanks

 

[aa73]

I'm about 77% on JFK/FO/767/Int'l, around 215 out of 285 F/Os. Bottom lineholder, so I tend to get crappy lines. However, for the past couple months, the "crappy" lines weren't so bad: in May I got a Zurich line, June was Barcelona, and this month is Rio. I don't like the Deep South stuff (Rio) so I traded it all away. Now it looks like this:

7/9 BCN
7/14 CDG
7/19 MAN
7/24 FCO
7/29 BCN

works out to about 78hrs. It's 3 on 2 off because I needed to be off for the beginning of July. So the rest is compressed. Most Europe lines in JFK are 3 on 4 off. There is a lot of Caribbean flying - 2, 3 and 4 day trips. Also a lot of Caribbean turns (day trips.)

 

[Flying the Line]

So, it looks like 15 days of work for 78 hours, is that correct?

 

[aa73]

Pretty close, looking at my line it's closer to 80ish.

 

[DHPFLYN]

May I ask why you don't like the deep south trips? Just curious if it had anything to do with the flying? or not your favorite overnight?

Thanks

 

[AA717driver]

May I ask why you don't like the deep south trips? Just curious if it had anything to do with the flying? or not your favorite overnight?

Thanks

Double red-eyes. I've not done one but when you pull into MIA at 11 pm and your connecting pax are heading off to BA or Sao Paulo for an 8-10 hour flight only to return a day or two later on ANOTHER red-eye, not my idea of fun.

MIA-CDG would work for me if I could hold it.

Domestic lines can be two on/two off or three 4 day trips that may or may not be commutable. Monthly values can be from 64 to 78 or so. Trading is VERY difficult now. They are short so what do they do? They restrict trading and wonder why sick usage is through the roof.

Some people are just stupid and cannot be fixed.

TC

 

[DHPFLYN]

Double red-eye doesn't sound fun !!

Thanks for the info

 

[matchthehatch]

May I ask why you don't like the deep south trips? Just curious if it had anything to do with the flying? or not your favorite overnight?

Thanks

aa73,

I wondered the same thing. I'm trying to expand my bank of knowledge should I eventually accept a recall. What is a typical month schedule of flying the SA trips like?

Thanks

 

[HA25]

can they begin to hire off the street before all of the defers get their final chance? Any guestimates as to how long before the on-line app goes up?

 

[AA717driver]

They will start hiring off the street before the deferred pilots HAVE to come back. The end of the recalls starts a 3 year clock on the guys who deferred. If AA continues hiring for three years and one day, that person will have to make a decision. (Are you listening XTW? )

I believe they start from the bottom of the list and go up when forcing deferrees (word?) to make a decision.

I think the newhire classes will be 50% off the street and 50% non-flowthrough Eagle pilots (up to 800 something). Anyone confirm this?

TC

 

[aa73]

hi guys... as TC mentioned, it's the double red-eye that sux big time. JFK-GIG leaves at 2135 and arrives around 0830 with 10hrs flying time and only a couple hours time change - a true all-nighter. Have the whole day and next day off, then leave GIG around 2000 and arrive JFK around 0600. Another red eye. This is esp. hard on the relief pilot, he gets first break and it's hard to sleep during first break (cabin lights on, dinner service, loud.) Then you have to be up for the rest of the flight. Nothing against Rio, I love Brazil but it's too hard on the body! Europe is much better... leave around 1700-1800 form JFK and land around 0700-0800 in Europe which is midnight, body time.

 

[aa73]

I think the newhire classes will be 50% off the street and 50% non-flowthrough Eagle pilots (up to 800 something). Anyone confirm this?

TC

TC... 1 AE pilot for every 2 new hires, up to a maximum of 20 AE pilots per class.

Stow those boards! :laugh:

 

[HA25]

TC... 1 AE pilot for every 2 new hires, up to a maximum of 20 AE pilots per class.

Stow those boards! :laugh:

wow, not bad for those AE guys.... any guess as to how many years on the property those AE guys will typically have who qualify for this flow? Is it a foregone deal that all will take it?

 

[Mama's Boy]

What's life like for a junior guy commuting to reserve on the DC9-80 or B737? I think I know the answer. Can you pull any reserve from home (long call)?

 

[aa73]

Reserve at AA blows. Most regionals have better reserve rules than us. Long call is 12hr call out, so in most cases you can pull it from home. Short call is defined as "reasonably available by ground surface transportation." Most consider that to be between 2-4hrs call out, but there is no time defined. Reserve lines have 11-12 days off and is based on a leveling system - if you fly a trip, you're in the next higher block and someone with less hours gets called out on the next trip before you.