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AA Mechaninc goes BIG on Horton

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Agree with most of what he said. Also almost spit out my coffee I was laughing so hard.
 
Preach on-
Accountants seem to be able to gain power- but very few have been great leaders
 
Horton's business plan includes sacrificing thousands of us low seniority folks' jobs because we're obviously what's wrong with AA. I AM NOT WHAT'S WRONG WITH AA and until he and his ilk recognize that I will never support them. Bring on US Airways and Doug Parker....I've nothing to lose as Horton has already decided I need to go.
 
I heard Horton on tv talking about how tough he was and how he wasnt afraid to use any means necessary to reign in labor costs . Saying he was not afraid to cut as many jobs as it took. The whole thing was nauseating . Of course its easy for him, he is a soulless bean counter who will make millions no matter what happens. He'll put thousands out on the street and not lose a minutes sleep over it.
 
He doesn't look for or need acceptance from us- he actually believes he's doing good, and needs to be the bad guy to do it- it gives him endless accolades in the circle he runs in that he does care about.

Hence my quote below- very few in that circle have stood up against the class warfare that has been going on- and what has Buffett been rewarded with- endless slams from the people he's trying to look out for.
 
I heard Horton on tv talking about how tough he was and how he wasnt afraid to use any means necessary to reign in labor costs . Saying he was not afraid to cut as many jobs as it took. The whole thing was nauseating . Of course its easy for him, he is a soulless bean counter who will make millions no matter what happens. He'll put thousands out on the street and not lose a minutes sleep over it.

I dont believe Horton was ever meant to be a leader or long-term head of AMR. He is the hatchet man who's job it is to slash and burn as much as possible, then the white knight (Parker?) will ride in and attempt to start a new happy relationship with labor.

Parker's term sheet is worse than the final proposals from AMR pre-BK, but at that time it wasnt good enough for the labor unions. Now that Horton is attempting to burn the contracts the tune changes for the unions. Interesting... its almost like it was planned that way...
 
This guy is going to give himself a heart attack. I agree with him but it's not just AA or other airlines that bust unions, outsource jobs, and continuely find ways to screw employees in exchange for bonuses. This is American business model today my friends.
 
Blame the customer who demands $199 tickets from California to Disney World. He should be ticked at SWA who has been undercutting his company's profits for years.
 
This is going to be a tough case to defend a fitness for duty evaluation or termination. Make no mistake, he will ultimately lose his job over this video. Unless I missed it through the yelling, there was a couple of threats in there as well which could also be construed as and carry some criminal implications.

Tempers are high but the absolute last thing you want to do is something like this. It is just not worth it.
 
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Blame the customer who demands $199 tickets from California to Disney World. He should be ticked at SWA who has been undercutting his company's profits for years.

Hey that's just a dumb statement . SWA is not the cheapest on most routes I buy tickets on. Been that way for a while.
 
Blame the customer who demands $199 tickets from California to Disney World. He should be ticked at SWA who has been undercutting his company's profits for years.

Why would he be mad at consumers? Cosumers will always prefer cheaper. I demand that Rolls Royce sells me a car for a grand, if they do thats their fualt.
 
Pax don't bang their fists on the ticket counter demanding a $199 fare. They simply pay what the airlines charge. If I buy a new car for $30,000 and decide I want to sell it the next day for only $5000, how is that the fault of the person the bought it that I lost money?
 
Blame the customer who demands $199 tickets from California to Disney World. He should be ticked at SWA who has been undercutting his company's profits for years.

People in California go to Disney Land. They really don't need to go all the way to Florida when the other one is right in their back yard. Although it will probably cost $199 in gas to get there & back from Bakersfield.
 
Blame the customer who demands $199 tickets from California to Disney World. He should be ticked at SWA who has been undercutting his company's profits for years.

Blame the customer? The dumbest statement on this topic ever.
 
I will say it does highlight one of the largest drawbacks of unions-
I AM a big supporter of unions and collective bargaining- I just think we need to collectively bargain parameters for the entire system and industry, then get creative and allow freedom and choice to change companies and negotiately directly as well.

Look at the emotion this man brings- he echoes many pilots I've met- emotion this strong only occurs when one feels trapped with little control over our own destiny- we have a system that marries us to companies that are led by management teams that have very little loyalty to the airline at all-

How long will we continue down this path?
 

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