Captain Overs said:This is the purpose of a Union, to stop crap like this from happening. Oh wait....Jet Blue doesn't have one!
Why do airlines have unions?
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Captain Overs said:This is the purpose of a Union, to stop crap like this from happening. Oh wait....Jet Blue doesn't have one!
IB6 UB9 said:Why do airlines have unions?
Captain Overs said:This is the purpose of a Union, to stop crap like this from happening. Oh wait....Jet Blue doesn't have one!
heilhaavir said:Dizel8, in one of your posts you wrote: <<They wish to do Hawaii out and backs>>. That was already the case @ ATA/Omni/Ryan/Southern and actually anybody who wants to do it since done under Intl rules.......
Falconjet said:A point of correction for the ALPA haters at jB: ALPA has not changed their position on the age 60 rule. They have simply started an information campaign to enlighten the membership on the origins and background of the age 60 rule. The plan is to inform the membership and THEN poll the membership on what they think of the age 60 rule. After polling the membersip it is quite possible that they may change their position on the age 60 rule. FJ
Dizel8 said:I heard it was Hawaiian or Aloha looking for this, but I stand corrected, thank you. I guess the body gets less tired if it is Int'l, however, are we talking two or three pilot crews?
Dizel8 said:Yaks,
Why is it a dumb idea? Is it better to mess up your body clock. Is it worse than commuting in one the same day and then doing a redeye transcon or "pond" jump. Both of which is done frquently by crewmembers.
Flying Farmer,
No, jetBlue does not exist in a vacuum and btw, we are not the only carrier petition the FAA for this, apparently one of the majors have been interested for years. They wish to do Hawaii out and backs. Not sure where you get ten days off a month from, but the jetBlue pilots have at least 14, with the average days of around 16 and senior pilots just shy of 18, this while flying 75-80 hrs a month. Productivity is rather high and the pilot group has endorsed this. Most people here prefer to be home with their families, as I am sure you do.
PLS,
As someone said, the exemption would apply to jetBlue and would be restricted to daylight transcons, with limits on legs and landings, ie 2 legs, 2 landings. I think that is better than flying out in the morning, "resting 12 hours, then flying a redeye back.
Certainly is a lot better than "standups", you know where you fly three hours, go to the hotel for 6 and then fly three hours back. Quite legal, but very hard on the body.
The studies done by NASA supports that from a scientific stand point, just like NASA endorses powernaps as does quite a few foreign carriers.
I would gladly see the FAA raise the 30 in 7, to perhaps 35 in seven. The 30 in 7 rule made sense when prop planes was involved, but with the advent of quiter, more ergonomic cockpits, I believe it would be as safe. Would rather see a reduction in duty limits from 16 to 14 and believe that would enhance safety more.