Flyprdu
You Want This, Don't You.
- Joined
- Nov 3, 2002
- Posts
- 1,541
Not true. Check your facts.And guess what, every one of the Saab captains were hired BEFORE 3/07.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Not true. Check your facts.And guess what, every one of the Saab captains were hired BEFORE 3/07.
And guess what, every one of the Saab captains were hired BEFORE 3/07. Most many YEARS before then. Do you think you are the only ones losing your seat? I'm being forced out of mine as well. Many of us are, welcome to the club.
As for your second question. Here is the language from the award:
6. For a period of five years beginning with submission of the
integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Mesaba
pilots may be awarded or displaced to a Q-400 captain
unless Colgan pilots maintain 193 Q-400 captain positions.
7. For a period of five years beginning with the submission ofSaab-340 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 129 Saab-340 captains.
the Integrated Seniority List, no Pinnacle pilot may be
awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position, and no
pre-merger Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a
Do you see the difference in the wording between these two fences? If Pinnacle were allowed to bid to the Saab, it would have been worded like number 6, but it is not. Pinnacle has it's own fragment of a sentence. If Bloch intended for what you are saying he did, it would read:
7. For a period of five years beginning with submission of the
integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Mesaba
pilots may be awarded or displaced to a SF-340 captain
unless Colgan pilots maintain 193 SF-240 captain positions.
Note, the number 7 directly above is NOT language in the award. I DO think he could have worded it better, I'll give you that.
Not true dude, are you crazy? One of my great friends, actually a CFI who taught me much for my instrument rating, is a LGA SF3 Captain at Mesaba. A majority of your LGA SF3 Captains were hired April-July 2007.
You're splitting hairs here. The above shouldn't keep ALL Pinnacle Captains off the Saabs, I just think the wording should have been more clear as to his intent. No matter, the 9E side of things will be getting a clarification from Bloch very soon, and then we will see what he truly meant.
You are right. I am splitting hairs. And that's what lawyers do. Split hairs to figure out intent. You are right again. He should have worded it better, especially considering how long it took him to write it.
Lawyers are scum, profitting directly at the expense of someone else's downfall.
Not true dude, are you crazy? One of my great friends, actually a CFI who taught me much for my instrument rating, is a LGA SF3 Captain at Mesaba. A majority of your LGA SF3 Captains were hired April-July 2007.
You're splitting hairs here. The above shouldn't keep ALL Pinnacle Captains off the Saabs, I just think the wording should have been more clear as to his intent. No matter, the 9E side of things will be getting a clarification from Bloch very soon, and then we will see what he truly meant.
Captain seats at Mesaba other than a brief period in 07 have not come quickly over the past 10+ years.
I distinctly remember Mesaba hiring entry level (street) Captains on the Saab just a few years ago. And now the upgrades will come quick for Mesaba pilots, thanks to Bloch.
I distinctly remember Mesaba hiring entry level (street) Captains on the Saab just a few years ago. And now the upgrades will come quick for Mesaba pilots, thanks to Bloch.
As for your second question. Here is the language from the award:
6. For a period of five years beginning with submission of the
integrated seniority list, no pre-merger Pinnacle or Mesaba
pilots may be awarded or displaced to a Q-400 captain
unless Colgan pilots maintain 193 Q-400 captain positions.
7. For a period of five years beginning with the submission ofSaab-340 captain position unless Mesaba pilots maintain 129 Saab-340 captains.
the Integrated Seniority List, no Pinnacle pilot may be
awarded or displaced to a Saab-340 captain position, and no
pre-merger Colgan pilot may be awarded or displaced to a
Do you see the difference in the wording between these two fences? If Pinnacle were allowed to bid to the Saab, it would have been worded like number 6, but it is not. Pinnacle has it's own fragment of a sentence. If Bloch intended for what you are saying he did, it would read: