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[brokedash]

I'm very curious to see what happens right after may1. The true plan for this company will slowly reveal itself I believe.

What happens on May 1st.

 

[Flyer1015]

Is DW still employed? There's your answer.

 

[gojo]

Is DW still employed? There's your answer.

Who's DW?

 

[Flyer1015]

I don't want to name names on a public forum, so I'll give you a riddle.

First name, D... very common 5 character name that begins and ends with D.

Last name, opposite color of black.

 

[higney85]

I don't want to name names on a public forum, so I'll give you a riddle.

First name, D... very common 5 character name that begins and ends with D.

Last name, opposite color of black.

You sir, not only named a management person, but don't even know what that person does anymore.

From a pilot standpoint, it's nothing compared the the old position.

FYI- a good bit had changed since you left, especially names/titles.

 

[Flyer1015]

So he's still there. Nothing really changed then? I can name management (the good ones) who are no longer at 9E because their job was either gone, or had to re-interview and didn't get it back.

 

[higney85]

So he's still there. Nothing really changed then? I can name management (the good ones) who are no longer at 9E because their job was either gone, or had to re-interview and didn't get it back.

I never said that... If you "knew" what was going on, you would be aware of the fact that many have a job until the end of may or June with the hq move underway. Some will remain and move, others will leave.

 

[xjhawk]

Flyer-the old 9E is long gone and that goes the same for the old XJ. Things are a changing and we who are all still stuck here can only hope it will change for the best. It will be hard to remain positive as Delta just got done raping us in our contract (yes, it is my assumption that they were behind what happened to us). We can only hope that there will be some positives here and some FO's will get a chance at an upgrade because of movement. Once Delta starts hiring there will be about 70-100 flows gone and then any Delta takes from the Bridge agreement.

I do see Delta changing our name-it would make sense to try to begin on a new footing. I would also expect them to make the operation run smoother by attempting to put some quality people in and hopefully changing some of the crappy policies the Pinnacle has in place. You can see this by them taking over IT and hopefully they will get their scheduling under control and stop being idiots and misusing crews in a wasteful manner. I guess they are also working on bringing down the fence and one would hope we would have the ability to be able to fly all three aircraft like skywest can-yes, I said three types of aircraft. 200-700-900. If rumors are true- Seems Delta mainline will also be doing engine work down in ATL. We will be Delta in all but name, pay and of course, RESPECT.

 

[gojo]

Flyer-the old 9E is long gone and that goes the same for the old XJ. Things are a changing and we who are all still stuck here can only hope it will change for the best. It will be hard to remain positive as Delta just got done raping us in our contract (yes, it is my assumption that they were behind what happened to us). We can only hope that there will be some positives here and some FO's will get a chance at an upgrade because of movement. Once Delta starts hiring there will be about 70-100 flows gone and then any Delta takes from the Bridge agreement.

I do see Delta changing our name-it would make sense to try to begin on a new footing. I would also expect them to make the operation run smoother by attempting to put some quality people in and hopefully changing some of the crappy policies the Pinnacle has in place. You can see this by them taking over IT and hopefully they will get their scheduling under control and stop being idiots and misusing crews in a wasteful manner. I guess they are also working on bringing down the fence and one would hope we would have the ability to be able to fly all three aircraft like skywest can-yes, I said three types of aircraft. 200-700-900. If rumors are true- Seems Delta mainline will also be doing engine work down in ATL. We will be Delta in all but name, pay and of course, RESPECT.

Oh, this ought to be good. I can't wait to see how Flyer and not so shyguy shoot holes in your optimisim

 

[Flyer1015]

Nope, all I can say is best of luck and hope things get better, or that the good guys get out soon to greener pastures.

 

[gojo]

Nope, all I can say is best of luck and hope things get better, or that the good guys get out soon to greener pastures.

Weird, I'm glad I was sitting down when I read that one

 

[i fly boxes]

Boy things got real quiet here after chapter 11 exit, anything new going on?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Paychecks are a lot smaller?

 

[v1valarob]

Boy things got real quiet here after chapter 11 exit, anything new going on?

We have jumpseat priority on delta flights, and they have priority on us. Should be a big bullet point at recruiting event.

 

[Flyer1015]

We have jumpseat priority on delta flights, and they have priority on us. Should be a big bullet point at recruiting event.

What bullet point would that be? "We're parking 140 airplanes, with near industry bottom RJ wages, but you can now get high jumpseat priority over other DCI carriers!"

Still doesn't sound appealing. You'd be crazy to consider 9E for employment today when other regionals with better futures/more aircraft growth are hiring with bonsues.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

What bullet point would that be? "We're parking 140 airplanes, with near industry bottom RJ wages, but you can now get high jumpseat priority over other DCI carriers!"

Still doesn't sound appealing. You'd be crazy to consider 9E for employment today when other regionals with better futures/more aircraft growth are hiring with bonsues.

I'm confident DL will do what it needs to do to get new hires to show up for class. Not sure what but they have all of the power to sweeten the pot enough to make 9E an attractive place.

 

[Flyer1015]

I'm confident DL will do what it needs to do to get new hires to show up for class. Not sure what but they have all of the power to sweeten the pot enough to make 9E an attractive place.

Like you said, what can they do? It's already a 7 year concessionary contract. So short of a guaranteed job at Delta, what makes 9E attractive to newhires? Losing 140 planes with pay lower than other better regionals doesn't look good for 9E.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

Like you said, what can they do? It's already a 7 year concessionary contract. So short of a guaranteed job at Delta, what makes 9E attractive to newhires? Losing 140 planes with pay lower than other better regionals doesn't look good for 9E.

Their pilots got a new contract before the amenable date, they could do the same thing here.

There could be a staple.

There could be signing bonuses.

There could be the promise or a quick upgrade or new bases.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Their pilots got a new contract before the amenable date, they could do the same thing here.

There could be a staple.

There could be signing bonuses.

There could be the promise or a quick upgrade or new bases.

And monkeys could fly out of Richard Anderson's, well you know what I mean...

 

[Ridgeback]

Their pilots got a new contract before the amenable date, they could do the same thing here.

There could be a staple. NO

There could be signing bonuses. Union has never and will nerver agree

There could be the promise or a quick upgrade or new bases.

No new "net" aircraft no "quick upgrades" Great I get a NYC base on 20K a year