9E LOA's

[PCL_128]

I see no new pay raises in a new 9E contract.

Then you must be blind. You can count on significant pay raises in their next contract.

 

[PCL_128]

Considering we had no contract for 4 years under bush, I think I can give Obama a few months to get settled in. His new appointee has not even begone her post yet has she?

No, not yet. She should be confirmed by the Senate within the next 60 days or so.

 

[e=mc2]

Any raise they get at this point will be meaningless since inflation will have eroded its purchasing power to the point it is a concession.

But heck who would expect a Socialist to understand how money works.

 

[Smarta$$]

Any raise they get at this point will be meaningless since inflation will have eroded its purchasing power to the point it is a concession.

But heck who would expect a Socialist to understand how money works.

Funny. Since it is the "capitalists" who made sure we did not get a raise for the last FIVE years.

 

[1.3XVso]

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Where will the GIA pay-to-fly pilots go if Pinnacle stops hiring?

To your moms house...

 

[SEVEN]

Then you must be blind. You can count on significant pay raises in their next contract.

That's funny. You can actually make a statement like that with a straight face? Please enlighten the rest of us on when you are due for a new contract. How many years has it been. The pilot group has been saying the new contract is "right around the corner" for years now. Guess what? It's already Spring in 2009. NO CONTRACT! The Pinnacle Pilot group should be more worried about actually getting a new contract soon and not worried about pay raises. If there is no contract soon, the crap is gonna hit the fan with Daddy Delta.
Stand firm. No contract and no jobs is better than a sub par contract. Right?
Let's see how strong the Gulfstream Academy Pilot group really is. Don't forget, those are guys are voting too. Scary!!!

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I don't ever remember hearing "the contract is right around the corner" when I was there.

Some progress was made every once in a while, but it was never promised to be just around the corner. The pilot group has gotten more and more stubborn in regards to wanting more pay raises... no more is second year pay for non-gulfstreamers 56 dollars an hour due to quick upgrades. Now everyone is getting to "enjoy" the 24 dollars an hour for second year pay. I think you'll end up seeing something at least at industry average as far as payrates are concerned.

I absolutely agree with the "lifer' effect over there, though. They want to do anything it takes to keep the flying, or whatever their justification is.

 

[SEVEN]

I don't ever remember hearing "the contract is right around the corner" when I was there.

Some progress was made every once in a while, but it was never promised to be just around the corner. The pilot group has gotten more and more stubborn in regards to wanting more pay raises... no more is second year pay for non-gulfstreamers 56 dollars an hour due to quick upgrades. Now everyone is getting to "enjoy" the 24 dollars an hour for second year pay. I think you'll end up seeing something at least at industry average as far as payrates are concerned.

I absolutely agree with the "lifer' effect over there, though. They want to do anything it takes to keep the flying, or whatever their justification is.

I agree.

 

[another cfii]

I don't ever remember hearing "the contract is right around the corner" when I was there.

Some progress was made every once in a while, but it was never promised to be just around the corner. The pilot group has gotten more and more stubborn in regards to wanting more pay raises... no more is second year pay for non-gulfstreamers 56 dollars an hour due to quick upgrades. Now everyone is getting to "enjoy" the 24 dollars an hour for second year pay. I think you'll end up seeing something at least at industry average as far as payrates are concerned.

I absolutely agree with the "lifer' effect over there, though. They want to do anything it takes to keep the flying, or whatever their justification is.

Certainly there was a point in the past 4 years we thought it was getting "oh so close" with those knucklehead on the other side of the mahogany table, but somehow we retreated to our side. And then mgmt sent out those eloquently ambivalent Fedex overnight letters to our families explaining how our union was holding our future back by sabotaging our careers, blah blah blah... rinse and repeat, and that's the summary of the past 4 years.

Like peanuckle, i'm getting more worried about the "lifer" scenario, with the economy in the shape it is, mother D is breathing down on their necks, no hiring on the horizon, those 5-10 years longevitiy CA who enjoy a decent 16 days off, live in base qol might get "tempted" to vote on any TA, and that's a bad idea. BTW, who's at the union's neg. table currently? Still the same original team or has it been changed? It's been a while.

 

[Flyer1015]

The Sky Is Falling!


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