9/11 Pentagon Video To be Released

[SammyG]

Soo you're telling me that since it was a missle then that somewhere out there there is a missing AA 757?

Boy, American Airlines has gotta be pissed someone jacked their plane and hasn't given it back.

 

[Longhorn]

Dont get me wrong, I dont buy the BS. I would just like to think that there would be a more clear, to the point answer from DC. I would have thought that they would have released a video that closed the doors on the debate. I DO think that flight 77 went down, I just think the video released was a piss poor attempt to proove some folks wrong.

 

[Gorilla]

Maybe there IS NO clear video? Just a radical, yet simple concept.
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or maybe I am part of the conspiracy! Shhhhhh!

 

[Longhorn]

Agreed

 

[epic!]

or what if it never happened and everyone in the world is messing with you, kinda like The Truman Show

 

[Pantherjon]

I dunno..That little bit of a white shape in the one frame prior to the explosion does look a bit small to be a 757..However I do know that at certain angles objects moving at a high velocity do have an optical illusion of appearing smaller then they actually are..Like the illusion in your passenger side mirror on your car, thats the reason for the 'objects are closer then they appear' printed on those mirrors..I remember seeing a video not too long ago that demonstrated a fighter jet on a skid being crashed into a wall(at 560MPH!) to test the walls strength, and the only thing that remained of the jet were the wingtips that were the only part of the plane not to strike the wall.It was a test of the material to protect nuclear power plants..I dont support any 'conspiracy' theory but IMHO the video doesnt prove or disprove anything other then showing the obvious that the Pentagon was indeed struck by something..I think the only way the conspiracy peeps will be convinced is if they were to locate a non blurry, high speed, video that clearly shows 'American Airlines' on the fuselage along with the double A insignia on the tail hitting the Pentagon..Aint gonna happen..So we will just have to nod our heads and politely say 'thats nice' when these peeps start spewing their conspiracy junk.

 

[NW_Pilot]

You can believe the governments theory, you can believe your own theroy, or some other theory! Right now you still have that right maybe?

 

[AirBadger]

Keep in mind what these security cameras are for. They are only there to record vehicles entering that security point, so any distance beyond that is going to look real bad. In the full video it shows a police car going through and the framerate is so bad on the camera the car goes through in 3 frames. Imagine what a plane in the distant background going 340 mph is going to look like.

 

[con-pilot]

I would like to take this opportunity refute the video show at http://WWW.pentagonstrike.co.UK/flash.htm#Main. The video contained within this link is a lie. The people behind this video, for some reason only known to them, have altered still pictures and shown the strike area AFTER the wreckage of American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, had for the most part been removed from the exterior of the building.

As some you may know I have attended and graduated from the NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) Aircraft Accident Investigators Schools I and II. I have been trained to detect aircraft parts and remains of aircraft (and sadly to say human remains) from other debris at an accident site. I have been trained to do this either on site or from video/still photos of an accident site. On September 11 in the afternoon while watching live TV feeds from the Pentagon site I could observe the remains of a large aircraft at the front of the impact site. Obviously I could not determine the type of aircraft or the airline it belonged to, however, when it was reported to be American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, I had no reason not to believe that the remains were in fact that of a 757.

Now, before I continue I would like to ask all of you a couple of simple questions.

1. I am sure we all remember the horrifying footage of the two airliners hitting the World Trade Center Buildings. Now let me ask you this, where is the wreckage of those aircraft? We all saw the airliners hit the buildings, there is no doubt of that. So where are the remains of these two airliners?

Alright, I’ll answer my own question. All of the parts of the airliners were there. The impact was so catastrophically severe that the airplanes literally disintegrated. What few intact pieces that remained were for all intents and proposes unrecognizable.

Therefore, why would the results of the American Boeing 757 slamming into the Pentagon at over 500 miles per hour be any different?

2. Assuming that these purveyors of falsehood about 9/11 are telling truth, which they are not, and no aircraft actually hit the Pentagon, I would ask you to consider the following.

Where are the crew and passengers of American Airlines Flight 77? Where is American Airlines Boeing 757-223, N644AA, SN 24602/365


The people that made this video can’t answer that question and still maintain that no airplane hit the Pentagon. Because the truth is that the crew and passengers died and the 757 was destroyed when it slammed into the Pentagon at over 500 miles per hour.

There was wreckage of American Airlines Flight 77 inside of the Pentagon, there were over 100 documented witnesses that have testified seeing a large silver airplane fly into the Pentagon and explode.

Unfortunately there are more conspiracy theory links in the cyber world than there are of the truth. Therefore I request that you please go to the following web-site and please read narrative and view the pictures contained within.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

Please view the above and make up your own mind.

Thank you for your attention.

 

[EMB Skillz]

Someday the guvmnt will tell us who shot JFK, where Jimmy Hoffa is buried, who was really behind the 9/11 attacks and what really hit the Pentagon. Of course, when that day comes, we will all have died from old age and Walt Disney will be un-frozen. Oh, on that day, the UFOs will drop Elvis off at Graceland.

 

[EMB Skillz]

Bush and the guv'mt are behind the entire thing. The conspiracy theorists have a very solid arguement. The government attacked its own citizens to fuel blind rage and make excuses to go to war. Why war? Military suppliers and contractors make big bucks during war, and there are kickbacks to the politicians and plenty of high-paying jobs for military and gov'mnt retirees. Can't find Bin Laden? No problem, lets invade Iraq. No WMD's in Iraq? Ok, better take on Iran next. War is big business, its all about $$.

 

[kingsize]

I would like to take this opportunity refute the video show at http://WWW.pentagonstrike.co.UK/flash.htm#Main. The video contained within this link is a lie. The people behind this video, for some reason only known to them, have altered still pictures and shown the strike area AFTER the wreckage of American Airlines Flight 77, a Boeing 757, had for the most part been removed from the exterior of the building.

Unfortunately there are more conspiracy theory links in the cyber world than there are of the truth. Therefore I request that you please go to the following web-site and please read narrative and view the pictures contained within.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

Thanks for that website. I liked the first one because of the music and flashy apperarance, so I'm tempted to believe its message, despite its lack of evidence, and obvious attempts at trickery.
On the other hand, the link you provided shows nice clear photos that make sense, a logical, clear indication of what really happened. Thusly, I am tempted not to believe it.

Here's a question: What is the diameter of a 757 fuselage, and what is the diamter of the hole?
I can see it possible for a plane to go through all those walls at high speed. I've seen a piece of straw accelerated to go through a 2x4 board. I'm not a big fan of these "vaporized" or disintegration theories. Matter does not just disappear. It might change shape, but doesn't disappear. Luckily the pictures in that link show some recognizable big parts, like the gear.

I'm sure some parts were found of the WTC planes. Those blackboxes survived.

 

[Lazy8]

how'd i miss this...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879

entertaining

Grove

 

[Gorilla]

Con-Pilot, thanks for taking the time to post the excellent info. As you can see, it doesn't seem to help. I have real trouble understanding the mindset of the conspiracy folk. I guess it's more exciting to believe it's a John Grisham-style thriller, with trenchcoats and dark secrets.

Will someone please address this: Given infinite government funding, and nearly 5 years, IF it was a conspiracy, why hasn't the Gov't produced a beautiful "video" of the 757 impacting the P'gon? If they can make dinosaurs come to life for a FEDEX commercial, I'm sure they could whip together a grainy CG vid with a distinctive AA 757 in there somewhere.

 

[Bjammin]

You know, I truly have a problem with conspirancy theroists. They disgrace the memories of the people that actually died, rescued, and lost loved ones.

I once was told that men never walked on the moon. How could they have because the rover's dust that was kicked up fell right back down on the surface like a 4+4 in the dunes of Arizona.

Conspericy is usually drawn from the minds of the un-educated, people that just don't understand how things work or are too lazy to do research.

I don't know much about alot of subjects, and would never pretend to. Listen to the experts and research the facts. A good start would be post #39

 

[EMB Skillz]

You know, I truly have a problem with conspirancy theroists. They disgrace the memories of the people that actually died, rescued, and lost loved ones.

I once was told that men never walked on the moon. How could they have because the rover's dust that was kicked up fell right back down on the surface like a 4+4 in the dunes of Arizona.

Conspericy is usually drawn from the minds of the un-educated, people that just don't understand how things work or are too lazy to do research.

I don't know much about alot of subjects, and would never pretend to. Listen to the experts and research the facts. A good start would be post #39

Yo, dawg, you honor their memories by finding out what really happened. How do you know that post #39 isnt crap....how do you know who to believe?

It is more believable that the lunar landing was faked. The technology was pretty limited back then, it seems highly unlikely that the lunar landing would have worked.

The government controls us with lies. The liars are the elite and have been ever since this country was founded.....the founding fathers were all Freemasons....Bush and Clinton were Skulls.......the Bushes, Clintons, Kennedys....they are all a part of it.

 

[big_al]

You know, I truly have a problem with conspirancy theroists. They disgrace the memories of the people that actually died, rescued, and lost loved ones.

I once was told that men never walked on the moon. How could they have because the rover's dust that was kicked up fell right back down on the surface like a 4+4 in the dunes of Arizona.

Conspericy is usually drawn from the minds of the un-educated, people that just don't understand how things work or are too lazy to do research.

I don't know much about alot of subjects, and would never pretend to. Listen to the experts and research the facts. A good start would be post #39

your knee jerk reactions and strawman insults would make the founding fathers, and accountability, surrender.

As the poster said above, you dont honor their memories by refusing to ask questions and hold people accountable, even if no conspiracy is true, the incompetence of the administration and government is what allowed the attacks to take place, whether you believe the govnt had something to do with it or not. Have you read the 9-11 report? (what wasnt blacked out by the bush administration, that is)

"conspericy" (hahaha) is drawn from the minds of uneducated people? heres a hint, when you want to insult somebodies intelligence, at least do a spellcheck. Secondly, theories are actually alive and well in the minds of educated and intelligent people with imagination, a desire to think on their own, and to not believe everything they see.

let me guess, I bet you think Reagan and Nixon were not part of the massive conspericies of their time?

 

[Bjammin]

Yo dawg, I'M PART OF THE GOVERNMENT! I've been in the military for over 18 years and have seen many people do very heroic things that then get poo poo'ed by poeple that have absolutly NO CLUE!!! Don't talk to me about how to honor someone until one of your friends crashed and burned in defence of OUR country.

You want to find out the truth about something to honor someone death. Go research it yourself, get FACTS then present them AFTER you feel you have done EVERYTHING you can to PROVE yourself.

If you're not willing to do that, then KEEP IT SHUT!

 

[mrnolmts]

... I have been trained to do this either on site or from video/still photos of an accident site....

...Therefore I request that you please go to the following web-site and please read narrative and view the pictures contained within.

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

Ok. Let me point you to picture 8 from the top. It shows a gaping hole, and unless the Pentagon has a parking lot inside the building, I think I'm safe to assume that the picture was taken outside, given the "No Parking At Any Time" sign. I'm assuming you will say that is where the fuselage entered, right?

Let me ask you this:
1. Where is the "outline" of the wings/engine/tail? If they sheared off before entry, why were they not found outside?
2. Wouldn't the heat from the impact have at least had *some* impact on that "No Parking" sign? I mean, it obliterated a 757, right?

For the record, I really don't know what to believe. I *do* know that, in my opinion, the conspiracy theorists have asked some very poignant questions.
Wouldn't these be two of them? Looking forward to a reply.

 

[Bjammin]

That picture was from the inside out. Again, do a little research.

 

[EMB Skillz]

You may work for the guv'mnt, but you are not the Guvm'nt. You don't guv'rn anything.

People can still be honored even if they did not crash something in "defence"(are you an American or a Brit) of our country. What we are looking for here is FACT. I don't believe anything the guv'mnt tells us about 9/11 is FACT.

Why don't you take your own advice.

 

[mrnolmts]

That picture was from the inside out. Again, do a little research.

Really? The Pentagon has "No Parking At Any Time" signs inside? Ok, bright one, go three more pictures down.. same hole.. Whaddayaknow, there's a LIGHT POLE in the picture. Did that somehow end up inside the Pentagon as well???

 

[EMB Skillz]

I have a military question. How many different missles used in the military are capable of doing that kind of damage? It wasn't a 757.

 

[Bjammin]

I truly can't believe some of you.

I've been to the Pentagon many times, YOU?

I have many friends at American Airlines that lost their fellow crewmembers on 9/11.

Do you have the guts to go to them and to the families of the passengers dead and tell them you have PROOF that their families are alive.

I have governed in the military. I was a strike package leader over in Iraq for months. I had intel that you will NEVER be exposed to, but if you want to keep going on half cocked be my guest. You're making yourself look like a J-----s.

 

[mrnolmts]

...I've been to the Pentagon many times, YOU?

Simple yes or no will do: You are 100% sure both of those pictures were taken from INSIDE the Pentagon looking "out"?

 

[EMB Skillz]

I truly can't believe some of you.

I've been to the Pentagon many times, YOU?

I have many friends at American Airlines that lost there fellow crewmembers on 9/11.

Do you have the guts to go to them and to the families of the passengers dead and tell them you have PROOF that their families are alive.

I have governed in the military. I was a strike package leader over in Iraq for months. I had intel that you will NEVER be exposed to, but if you want to keep going on half cocked be my guest. You're making yourself look like a J-----s.

Jack, we don't care what kind of guv'mnt intel you were exposed to. Nothing secret about what's happening over there. Not impressive.

There are no dead passengers from that flight, as the flight never existed in the first place. Either that or the flight was diverted over the ocean and shot down as part of the cover up. The video shows it all, second one frame 24...clearly not a 757.

 

[Bjammin]

Yes, I'm sure.

The place where the plane hit collopsed on to itself with many of my NAVY brothers and sisters INSIDE DEAD!

 

[Bjammin]

Jack, we don't care what kind of guv'mnt intel you were exposed to. Nothing secret about what's happening over there. Not impressive.

There are no dead passengers from that flight, as the flight never existed in the first place. Either that or the flight was diverted over the ocean and shot down as part of the cover up. The video shows it all, second one frame 24...clearly not a 757.

You truly have no clue.

Go visit the dead captain's wife and tell her to her face what you think and when she starts tearing up you tell her that it's our govenment's fault this happened and not terrorists bent on destruction.

You're just like the guy that told me men never landed on the moon.

I said, "There is no air on the moon to keep the dust particles suspended. That's why they fall right back down to the surface even in the moon's weak gravity."

He just went away, as he should have.

Keep going. I want all to see what you people are made of.

 

[mrnolmts]

Yes, I'm sure.

The place where the plane hit collopsed on to itself with many of my NAVY brothers and sisters INSIDE DEAD!

Ok, I found an aerial picture of the Pentagon. Looks like you're right. There *is* parking inside the rings. My apologies.

 

[Bjammin]

Ok, I found an aerial picture of the Pentagon. Looks like you're right. There *is* parking inside the rings. My apologies.

Thank you. It doesn't take much to find out some basic facts. Then it's just a matter of finding out more for yourself other then listlening to crazies.

Ask the questions and find out the answers on your own by listlening to NON-BIASED experts and researching facts.

Thanks again, you have my respect, for what's that worth.