737 NG operators, how much fuel do you land with?

[tico]

and the lights dont stay on.....

 

[RightBettor]

That was a great album (your avatar). RIP Ian Curtis ....... You dumb MF..

Dicko,

Yes, Joy Division was well on their way to huge success. However, we will never know how huge. That's just ones man's opinion. Sadly, Ian Curtis was on so many psych meds for his epilepsy that he probably had no clue he was ending his life. Also, consider the meds he was on in the 1970s were primitave compared to modern day meds, and if I remember correctly, he was on a one-year "waiting list" to see a "specialist." All while his general practitioner was prescribing the standard, sub-standard stuff. Needless and untimely demise.

If you get a chance, check out the 2007 movie "Control." Pretty good bio-pic.

Also great documentaries on YouTube covering bands like JD, NO, The Smiths, et al.

Cheers!!

 

[Mookie]

you are sea guy mook so you are flying mostly with gummers.....they carry a little more gas

Noop. Wrong on all counts.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Dicko,

Yes, Joy Division was well on their way to huge success. However, we will never know how huge. That's just ones man's opinion. Sadly, Ian Curtis was on so many psych meds for his epilepsy that he probably had no clue he was ending his life. Also, consider the meds he was on in the 1970s were primitave compared to modern day meds, and if I remember correctly, he was on a one-year "waiting list" to see a "specialist." All while his general practitioner was prescribing the standard, sub-standard stuff. Needless and untimely demise.

If you get a chance, check out the 2007 movie "Control." Pretty good bio-pic.

Also great documentaries on YouTube covering bands like JD, NO, The Smiths, et al.

Cheers!!

Control is awesome as is 24 Hour Party People. Just saw Peter Hook last night, great show...again.

 

[StopNTSing]

What is really missing from this whole discussion is at what fuel load, realistically, can one expect the aircraft to potentially flame out an engine? At my airline, anything below 4000 lbs and you are now into the QRH running a checklist for a low fuel state. Doesn't really inspire much confidence that the FAR requirement of 45 minutes reserve (equates to about 3500 lbs) is what I would actually have before the really bad stuff can happen. Would be nice to hear from Boeing how much of that final 3500 lbs is truly useable fuel. Not holding my breath for that info....

That said, you Alaska boys are dangerous! Routinely flirting with a sub-5000 lb arrival fuel is nuts!

P.S. Let's get some input from the true subject matter expert on this topic: Hey General, what do you typically plan for arrival fuels at SkyWest? :laugh:

 

[Chief Pilot]

^^^^^
That's a good one---a SWA guy calling Alaska guys dangerous! Just because a couple of anonymous posters decided to try to impress everyone by how little fuel they can land with doesn't make it true. Just ask some of your SW brethren who jumpseat on us daily. Doubt they'd remain quiet if they saw such dangerous fuel policies. I can't remember a time in the past several years that I've landed with less than 5000lbs. Maybe a 4.9 or 4.8 crept in there there on a CAVU day. Certainly never had main tank lights illuminate on rollout. Ridiculous. Yes, I do SE AK, HI, Transcon & Mexico. Also been to Dutch and flown the Arctic--a lot.

 

[StopNTSing]

Guess I didn't include enough emoticons in the first draft to convey my sarcasm. How about this version:

That said, you Alaska boys are dangerous! :laugh:

<<insert photo of Val Kilmer here>>

Routinely flirting with a sub-5000 lb arrival fuel is nuts!

Better? Sorry if I offended any AK pilots. :0:0:0

 

[slaquer5]

^^^^^
That's a good one---a SWA guy calling Alaska guys dangerous! Just because a couple of anonymous posters decided to try to impress everyone by how little fuel they can land with doesn't make it true. Just ask some of your SW brethren who jumpseat on us daily. Doubt they'd remain quiet if they saw such dangerous fuel policies. I can't remember a time in the past several years that I've landed with less than 5000lbs. Maybe a 4.9 or 4.8 crept in there there on a CAVU day. Certainly never had main tank lights illuminate on rollout. Ridiculous. Yes, I do SE AK, HI, Transcon & Mexico. Also been to Dutch and flown the Arctic--a lot.

c



OMG



Even I could see it was a joke



Have you even seem the movie Top Gun .

 

[Chief Pilot]

OMG?? Seriously, you sound like my 14 year old daughter. (Only she would proofread what she wrote before hitting send). Then again your screen name is slaquer(?).

Hey StopNTsing,
All due respect--you are correct, I didn't "read" your sarcasm. Hell, if I were reading about SW guys routinely rolling out with main tank lights illuminated I would consider that not just dangerous, but reckless. Thanks for the clarification and correction.

 

[dicko]

Dicko,

Yes, Joy Division was well on their way to huge success. However, we will never know how huge. That's just ones man's opinion. Sadly, Ian Curtis was on so many psych meds for his epilepsy that he probably had no clue he was ending his life. Also, consider the meds he was on in the 1970s were primitave compared to modern day meds, and if I remember correctly, he was on a one-year "waiting list" to see a "specialist." All while his general practitioner was prescribing the standard, sub-standard stuff. Needless and untimely demise.

If you get a chance, check out the 2007 movie "Control." Pretty good bio-pic.

Also great documentaries on YouTube covering bands like JD, NO, The Smiths, et al.

Cheers!!

Agreed. A complete shame and a waste.

The Killers video of 'Shadowplay', the Bauhaus cover of 'Transmission' and NIN Dead Souls are worth checking out. Liked 'Control' a lot.

Watching Ian Curtis, taught me how to dance.

:nuts:

 

[slaquer5]

OMG?? Seriously, you sound like my 14 year old daughter. (Only she would proofread what she wrote before hitting send). Then again your screen name is slaquer(?).

Hey StopNTsing,
All due respect--you are correct, I didn't "read" your sarcasm. Hell, if I were reading about SW guys routinely rolling out with main tank lights illuminated I would consider that not just dangerous, but reckless. Thanks for the clarification and correction.

funny

You sound like the over age 60 guys

 

[Metrojet]

I call BS on that one...

Really
I was on jumpseat once MCO - FLL and on climb out - fuel pump lights came on on overhead

 

[tomgoodman]

funny

You sound like the over age 60 guys

Hey! You're supposed to add: "....not that there's anything wrong with that, you understand."

 

[slaquer5]

Really
I was on jumpseat once MCO - FLL and on climb out - fuel pump lights came on on overhead

Easy to happen. Light load ,not a lot of fuel and pitch at 20 degrees or above .

 

[slaquer5]

Hey! You're supposed to add: "....not that there's anything wrong with that, you understand."

True , I did forget


To much texting with my daughter and now I am texting like her

 

[Mookie]

Really
I was on jumpseat once MCO - FLL and on climb out - fuel pump lights came on on overhead

He said it was on roll out.

Mookie

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

He said it was on roll out.

Mookie

I've had the centers light up on takeoff, but the mains on landing? WTF.

 

[Mookie]

I've had the centers light up on takeoff, but the mains on landing? WTF.

Seriously!!! that's what I was thinking too...

Must be another one of the Arctic "badge of honor" things the Humbolts of the south land will never understand. No wonder there's so much oversight up there.

Mookie

 

[EL10]

So based on this sample pool UA does haul the most gas.

How about single engine taxi? At UA I would guess it to be about ten percent of the time.

 

[HalinTexas]

Y'all would freak out flying in Asia (Japan). "Min fuel" = 30 minutes. "Emergency Fuel" = 20 minutes, with a "Mayday" call. You do the math.

Routinely, if a flight deviates to an alternate, and you fly to the plan, you will land with less than 4000#, which is about 45 min. of fuel.