737 NG operators, how much fuel do you land with?

[Ty Webb]

I like to plan to land at the furthest point with 6.0
I'm comfortable landing with 5.0
Anything less than 5000 lbs and I want to be looking at the runway.

A typical go-around uses 1500 lbs. If you have less than 4500 lbs and have to go around, you are now an emergency aircraft, with one shot remaining to get that airplane on the ground.

 

[inline]

I love how the guys who write this crap aren't strapped into the airplane on a daily basis. The worst thing that'll happen to them in their cubicles is they may fall off their office chairs. Ouch! "Now I believe you have my stapler. It's red."

Hear hear

 

[Mookie]

not abnormal for us to have fuel pumps light up during roll out either.....we have it down to a science at alastic airlines...

I call BS on that one...

 

[dicko]

I love how the guys who write this crap aren't strapped into the airplane on a daily basis. The worst thing that'll happen to them in their cubicles is they may fall off their office chairs. Ouch! "Now I believe you have my stapler. It's red."

That was a great album (your avatar). RIP Ian Curtis ....... You dumb MF.

On the subject of fuel, I start mildly tweaking below 5K. When the lights come on, get outa our way.

 

[tico]

you are sea guy mook so you are flying mostly with gummers.....they carry a little more gas

 

[tico]

and the lights dont stay on.....

 

[RightBettor]

That was a great album (your avatar). RIP Ian Curtis ....... You dumb MF..

Dicko,

Yes, Joy Division was well on their way to huge success. However, we will never know how huge. That's just ones man's opinion. Sadly, Ian Curtis was on so many psych meds for his epilepsy that he probably had no clue he was ending his life. Also, consider the meds he was on in the 1970s were primitave compared to modern day meds, and if I remember correctly, he was on a one-year "waiting list" to see a "specialist." All while his general practitioner was prescribing the standard, sub-standard stuff. Needless and untimely demise.

If you get a chance, check out the 2007 movie "Control." Pretty good bio-pic.

Also great documentaries on YouTube covering bands like JD, NO, The Smiths, et al.

Cheers!!

 

[Mookie]

you are sea guy mook so you are flying mostly with gummers.....they carry a little more gas

Noop. Wrong on all counts.

 

[B6Busdriver]

Dicko,

Yes, Joy Division was well on their way to huge success. However, we will never know how huge. That's just ones man's opinion. Sadly, Ian Curtis was on so many psych meds for his epilepsy that he probably had no clue he was ending his life. Also, consider the meds he was on in the 1970s were primitave compared to modern day meds, and if I remember correctly, he was on a one-year "waiting list" to see a "specialist." All while his general practitioner was prescribing the standard, sub-standard stuff. Needless and untimely demise.

If you get a chance, check out the 2007 movie "Control." Pretty good bio-pic.

Also great documentaries on YouTube covering bands like JD, NO, The Smiths, et al.

Cheers!!

Control is awesome as is 24 Hour Party People. Just saw Peter Hook last night, great show...again.

 

[StopNTSing]

What is really missing from this whole discussion is at what fuel load, realistically, can one expect the aircraft to potentially flame out an engine? At my airline, anything below 4000 lbs and you are now into the QRH running a checklist for a low fuel state. Doesn't really inspire much confidence that the FAR requirement of 45 minutes reserve (equates to about 3500 lbs) is what I would actually have before the really bad stuff can happen. Would be nice to hear from Boeing how much of that final 3500 lbs is truly useable fuel. Not holding my breath for that info....

That said, you Alaska boys are dangerous! Routinely flirting with a sub-5000 lb arrival fuel is nuts!

P.S. Let's get some input from the true subject matter expert on this topic: Hey General, what do you typically plan for arrival fuels at SkyWest? :laugh:

 

[Chief Pilot]

^^^^^
That's a good one---a SWA guy calling Alaska guys dangerous! Just because a couple of anonymous posters decided to try to impress everyone by how little fuel they can land with doesn't make it true. Just ask some of your SW brethren who jumpseat on us daily. Doubt they'd remain quiet if they saw such dangerous fuel policies. I can't remember a time in the past several years that I've landed with less than 5000lbs. Maybe a 4.9 or 4.8 crept in there there on a CAVU day. Certainly never had main tank lights illuminate on rollout. Ridiculous. Yes, I do SE AK, HI, Transcon & Mexico. Also been to Dutch and flown the Arctic--a lot.

 

[StopNTSing]

Guess I didn't include enough emoticons in the first draft to convey my sarcasm. How about this version:

That said, you Alaska boys are dangerous! :laugh:

<<insert photo of Val Kilmer here>>

Routinely flirting with a sub-5000 lb arrival fuel is nuts!

Better? Sorry if I offended any AK pilots. :0:0:0

 

[slaquer5]

^^^^^
That's a good one---a SWA guy calling Alaska guys dangerous! Just because a couple of anonymous posters decided to try to impress everyone by how little fuel they can land with doesn't make it true. Just ask some of your SW brethren who jumpseat on us daily. Doubt they'd remain quiet if they saw such dangerous fuel policies. I can't remember a time in the past several years that I've landed with less than 5000lbs. Maybe a 4.9 or 4.8 crept in there there on a CAVU day. Certainly never had main tank lights illuminate on rollout. Ridiculous. Yes, I do SE AK, HI, Transcon & Mexico. Also been to Dutch and flown the Arctic--a lot.

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OMG



Even I could see it was a joke



Have you even seem the movie Top Gun .

 

[Chief Pilot]

OMG?? Seriously, you sound like my 14 year old daughter. (Only she would proofread what she wrote before hitting send). Then again your screen name is slaquer(?).

Hey StopNTsing,
All due respect--you are correct, I didn't "read" your sarcasm. Hell, if I were reading about SW guys routinely rolling out with main tank lights illuminated I would consider that not just dangerous, but reckless. Thanks for the clarification and correction.

 

[dicko]

Dicko,

Yes, Joy Division was well on their way to huge success. However, we will never know how huge. That's just ones man's opinion. Sadly, Ian Curtis was on so many psych meds for his epilepsy that he probably had no clue he was ending his life. Also, consider the meds he was on in the 1970s were primitave compared to modern day meds, and if I remember correctly, he was on a one-year "waiting list" to see a "specialist." All while his general practitioner was prescribing the standard, sub-standard stuff. Needless and untimely demise.

If you get a chance, check out the 2007 movie "Control." Pretty good bio-pic.

Also great documentaries on YouTube covering bands like JD, NO, The Smiths, et al.

Cheers!!

Agreed. A complete shame and a waste.

The Killers video of 'Shadowplay', the Bauhaus cover of 'Transmission' and NIN Dead Souls are worth checking out. Liked 'Control' a lot.

Watching Ian Curtis, taught me how to dance.

:nuts: