70 buck a barrel oil matched by rising airfares...talk of rationing.

[IronWalt]

No we are not. I am buying a still this week and am going to start making my own fuel from grain. Screw the oil companies. I am not going to wait for them to build more refining capacity or discover new reserves. We are NEVER POWERLESS

Step 1:

We admitted we were powerless over <oil>; that our lives had become unmanageable.

Only 11 more steps to go!!!! :beer:

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

No we are not. I am buying a still this week and am going to start making my own fuel from grain. Screw the oil companies. I am not going to wait for them to build more refining capacity or discover new reserves. We are NEVER POWERLESS

So, you're making fuel for people?

It'll only taste like Jet-A :beer:

CE

 

[IronWalt]

So, you're making fuel for people?

It'll only taste like Jet-A

Hehehehehehe,

I can't wait to experiment with this. A friend of mine is a chef at a local italian resturant. And we are going to try several recipies. One with feed grain purchased from the local feed stores. And another with left over pasta. Which is made from flour, Same stuff, different form.

The bottom line is that I am a car lover and refuse to give up my V-8 engines so that I can putz around in a Toyota Prius.

 

[jetflyer]

Sorry to bring this thread back to life.

$69.00/barrel for Light Sweet Crude
My expert analysis:It will be on its way back to $20.00 any day now.

The 700 CLUB with Pat Robertson just had the first of a series of discussions on peak oil. Matthew Simmons, friend of Bush and Cheney, and Republican Congressman from Maryland Roscoe Bartlett were on there discussing coming peak oil and saying we're going to have to live with less oil year after year soon.

They're emphasizing that we hurry our transition to alternative energy sources.

Totally unnecessary.

THE CRAZIES ARE GOING MAD!!! Don't they know we have an infinite amount of oil that is replenished from the center of the Earth??! Scaremongerers!!!

Jet

 

[eggman76]

Hehehehehehe,

I can't wait to experiment with this. A friend of mine is a chef at a local italian resturant. And we are going to try several recipies. One with feed grain purchased from the local feed stores. And another with left over pasta. Which is made from flour, Same stuff, different form.

The bottom line is that I am a car lover and refuse to give up my V-8 engines so that I can putz around in a Toyota Prius.

Might want to check with the BATF on this grand plan. Oh and the EPA, the IRS, and DOT. One other little problem, no factory V8 will run on straight alcohol.

Scratch that anyway - your plan is not even close to being economically viable. You know how much heat it takes to run a still? What are you going to do with the DG's that are left over from your still? Also, don't drink any of the liquor you make from flour, it will have some methanol in it and you will suffer some nasty side effects like blindness. Good luck - don't blow yourself and your neighbors up.


Eggman

 

[mzaharis]

No we are not. I am buying a still this week and am going to start making my own fuel from grain. Screw the oil companies. I am not going to wait for them to build more refining capacity or discover new reserves. We are NEVER POWERLESS

You know, I was trying to mimic the Alcoholics Anonymous 12 step program - don't quite know how they'd feel about distilling!!!! :laugh:

Oh well, as long as it ends up in the fuel tank!!! Good luck, and be safe!

 

[LowCarb]

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Mzaharris

 

[LowCarb]

12 Step Program

Mzaharris-I got that and it WAS funny! I'm a small time oil investor and I'm tellin ya'll that if I could pump it out of the ground any faster, I would...I sure as heck wouldn't leave it in there...it helps pay my mortgage!
The business (the oil and gas business) today is WAY different than it was 50 years ago, the old timers have told me, who've been around and wached the US oil scene go from boom to bust. Sure, technology has improved a lot, but it's WAY harder to get the stuff out of the ground when you do find it. Use to be you could just poke a hole in the ground, stand back and get out of the way cause the reservour pressure was just so great...
Nowadays you have to sweet talk the black goo with carbon dioxide, water or gas injection just to motivate it. It's a COMPLICATED and hideously EXPENSIVE process. There's nothing more frustrating than investing tens of thousands of dollars into a drilling project and then having to wait as the stuff trickles out ...slowly, oh, so slowly!! (except maybee investing 50 grand and years of eating only Top Ramen to get that precious 23K a year RJ Job!)
This morning, I'm headed down from Wisconsin to a little town in East Texas called New London, where my dad was raised. At one time, they had so much oil comming out of the ground that their school district was the richest in the country...now, its almost a ghost town, population 491 or some such number.

 

[jetflyer]

....I'm tellin ya'll that if I could pump it out of the ground any faster, I would...I sure as heck wouldn't leave it in there...it helps pay my mortgage!
The business (the oil and gas business) today is WAY different than it was 50 years ago, the old timers have told me, who've been around and wached the US oil scene go from boom to bust. Sure, technology has improved a lot, but it's WAY harder to get the stuff out of the ground when you do find it. Use to be you could just poke a hole in the ground, stand back and get out of the way cause the reservour pressure was just so great...
Nowadays you have to sweet talk the black goo with carbon dioxide, water or gas injection just to motivate it. It's a COMPLICATED and hideously EXPENSIVE process. There's nothing more frustrating than investing tens of thousands of dollars into a drilling project and then having to wait as the stuff trickles out ...slowly, oh, so slowly!! .........

Lowcarb,
You described what the Crazies would say is the problem of PEAK OIL of an oil field. The pressure is great at first then declines and you then have to inject carbon dioxide, gas, or water to raise the reservoir pressures and you still get less and less out each year.

The crazies that believe in Peak oil say that since the U.S. went from pumping 9.6 million barrels a day in 1970 to 5.4 million barrels a day today that the U.S. passed its peak oil in 1970.

From: http://www.energybulletin.net/primer.php

Of the 65 largest oil producing countries in the world, up to 54 have past their peak of production and are now in decline, including the USA (in 1970/71) and the North Sea (in 2001).

Scaremongerers!! NOT TRUE! They're intentionally holding back oil to raise the price

I think those fields that have lost their reservoir pressure in Texas and all over the world will soon replenish themselves from the oil created in the center of the Earth

Other GIANT OIL FIELDS that will soon replenish themselves include these great oil fields from our past that have gone into decline:
Oseberg
Brent
Gullfaks
Prudhoe
Slaughter
Romashkino
Forties
Samotior
North Sea

Two recently added to the decline list:
Burgan of Kuwait in March 2005
Cantarell of Mexico sometime in 2005 according to Mexico

An oilfield none of us want to see go into decline but many say is very close:
Ghawar of Saudi Arabia where over half their oil comes from and 5-6% of the world's oil.

My not so expert opinion:$20.00/ barrel oil will be back any day now......
Can you imagine how good our airlines are going to do when oil gets back to $20.00/barrel!!?? I can't wait! The good ole days of 89Cent/gallon gasoline will be back any day now!

Jet

 

[CrimsonEclipse]

Present price of light sweet crude. $69/barrel

que $20/barrel in 3...2...1...now......no no...NOW... no, I mean NOW!.

If you watch the show "Mind of Mencia" you'll recognise this quote:

DUR DI-DUR!!!

CE