400 or Ultra?

[DO-82 driver]

Hummmmmm....a/c that is no good for pax trips but it might just be the ticket for transporting crews.

Hope that doesn't happen like it used to when EJM used to shuttle us around in the King Air.

 

[Floyd94]

Whats the upgrade time on the Ultra?

 

[NJAPLT]

Upgrade Time

Well, I just looked at crewops, started Aug, 2005, around 100 numbers ahead of me to upgrade into a 560E, around 170 into an XL.

 

[Twotter76]

Whats the upgrade time on the Ultra?

Last award went to a 12/04 hire so just a hair over 2 years but your results may vary.

 

[Heavy Set]

If you want to learn how to glide a jet, choose the 400XP. Otherwise, I'd go for the Ultra and hope to get bumped into the Encore at a later date...

 

[BeechScrub]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I was leaning toward the 400, but I think the Ultra may be more my style. Can't wait to start!

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

I am typed in both. This one's easy. You will spend 1/2 your time in the 400 loading bags though the cabin to the aft lav. The Ultra has more aft (external) baggage plus nose baggage. Trust me, go with the ultra. I must say however, the Collins AMS-5000 is the cat's meow compared to the Primus 1000 in the Ultra.

Either way, congrats on the new job.

 

[Guitar Guy]

I'd recommend the Ultra also, though I sure hate not having TCAS. As for the amount of flying the Ultra does, it'll be interesting to see how that's affected as the company continues to sell off the fleet. I was in CMH earlier this week and saw another of the Collins-equipped Ultras being prepped for sale.

 

[psysicx]

Why does the Air Force use the 400 if it sucks so bad?

 

[RNObased]

Why does the Air Force use the 400 if it sucks so bad?

Because it flies like a heavy aircraft, thanks to the awesome spoiler set up.

 

[gunfyter]

Are there any Air Force bases with less than 12000 feet of runway?

 

[jonjuan]

Why does the Air Force use the 400 if it sucks so bad?

Same reason NJA has them-they got a ton of 'em for real cheap.

 

[Nightmare67]

Last award went to a 12/04 hire so just a hair over 2 years but your results may vary.

I just looked on my standing bid...Ive been here since Nov 02 and the bid says there are 20 guys SENIOR to me bidding Captain in the Ultra. Only 1 senior to me bidding the 400.

Wierd, there are more guy senior to me bidding the Ultra than the Hawker 800 (Honeywell), Sovereign, Encore and the X.

Secrets out...QOL in the uboat is good.

 

[WrknStff]

If you want a small jet that handles like a KC-135, the 400 is definately your bird.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Why does the Air Force use the 400 if it sucks so bad?

Because it doesn't matter what you fly since in the Air Force there are either fighters or targets.

Seriously, the airforce has it's own set of regulations, performance guidlines, etc. I am sure that the pi$$ poor performance of the 400 ain't no thing for America's finest to worry about... only us civies.