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[XPOO]

http://www.fltdisp.com/TheDispatchCareer/PayBenefits/tabid/59/Default.aspx


Regional carriers start their Aircraft Flight Dispatcher employees between $28,000 and $32,000 per year. Depending on longevity, salaries reach into the $90,000 range and higher for managers.
Major carriers start assistant flight dispatchers in the $40K range depending on experience. Most major air carrier's dispatch offices are union represented and salary caps have been negotiated beyond $100K. Many senior flight dispatchers make in excess of $125K when shift differentials and license pay are included.


Nice try.....someone will always make more than me, but the reality is , you sit in a cubicle and don't really do anything that I couldn't do my self, while I sit in an airplane and do what you can/couldn't do.
Thanks for playing....

That's an old pay description, so top out has gone way up since the year 2009.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

It's so sweet that you care enough to think of what I do on a daily basis. Bless your heart.

Don't flatter yourself, on most days at work you don't even exist in a practical sense. So why don't you hit F9 and do the scut work so some poor pilot doesn't have to what they know from experience how to do. Any airline pilot could do your job, could you do any airline pilots job? Didn't think so, you would have to enter the arena and take the risk that every pilot does on a daily basis, your only risk is developing carpal tunnel syndrome.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Can you say the same?

While you may be satisfied with what you do, I am living my life long dream. And continue to do so on a daily basis, 1K or 100K or 1M , doesn't matter, the thought of working in a cubicle makes me ill, been there done that for 3X what I make as an Airline Captain, wouldn't go back for any reason. I sleep in my own bed 16nights on average a month and go to interesting places on the flip side. While SKYW ain't perfect, my lot in life is pretty darn good and I will enjoy it while I am here. If and when AA, UAL, DAL or HAL calls I will gladly go and try a new style of life on for size.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Don't flatter yourself, on most days at work you don't even exist in a practical sense. So why don't you hit F9 and do the scut work so some poor pilot doesn't have to what they know from experience how to do. Any airline pilot could do your job, could you do any airline pilots job? Didn't think so, you would have to enter the arena and take the risk that every pilot does on a daily basis, your only risk is developing carpal tunnel syndrome.

Just curious: what does F9 do?

Your ranting is hilarious. Please, keep it coming.

 

[XPOO]

Review the release, yeah so what? What I watch is the fuel in the tanks, when it gets too low because you screwed up, I divert and collect more money, I win, my blood pressure is lower, and when the final analysis comes to light, dikskratch screwed up in planning, and I saved the day. The bottom line is the best you have to offer is a 20 page document, I on the other hand, take the people who paid the money from A to B and sometimes via C, because you really aren't that good.

Refresh my memory...who was at fault in Waterloo?

 

[WalterSobchak]

While you may be satisfied with what you do, I am living my life long dream. And continue to do so on a daily basis, 1K or 100K or 1M , doesn't matter, the thought of working in a cubicle makes me ill, been there done that for 3X what I make as an Airline Captain, wouldn't go back for any reason. I sleep in my own bed 16nights on average a month and go to interesting places on the flip side. While SKYW ain't perfect, my lot in life is pretty darn good and I will enjoy it while I am here. If and when AA, UAL, DAL or HAL calls I will gladly go and try a new style of life on for size.

I'm happy to hear that. Genuinely. That's the closest thing to a real, human post I've ever seen from you. Thank you for that.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Just curious: what does F9 do?

Your ranting is hilarious. Please, keep it coming.

Out of that paragraph the only question/answer you have is what is F9?
I don't know, but given an afternoon and a short study I could do your job, can you say the same of mine?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Refresh my memory...who was at fault in Waterloo?

Napoleon?

 

[XPOO]

Out of that paragraph the only question/answer you have is what is F9?
I don't know, but given an afternoon and a short study I could do your job, can you say the same of mine?

Nah, unfortunately, you would be required to do the same amount of classtime and OJT as all of us had to do. Just like they wouldnt let me skip the front of the line to push to buttons on the autopilot.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Napoleon?

OK, you win that round.

 

[XPOO]

Napoleon?

Mmmhmm, just as I thought.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Nah, unfortunately, you would be required to do the same amount of classtime and OJT as all of us had to do. Just like they wouldnt let me skip the front of the line to push to buttons on the autopilot.

Like you could figger out which buttons do what. So pushing buttons on the autopilot is skipping to the "front of the line" If you study real hard, fly 1500 hrs and manage to get hired you can sit in the right seat for 5-6 years before you upgrade on the EMB-120. Assuming I wanted to do your job, what 1-2 weeks of classroom to learn what F9 does then dispatching away?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Mmmhmm, just as I thought.

What the knuckleheads that landed with fumes in the tank? Guess what they screwed up, but they still put the plane and pax back on the ground successfully. So they paid a very large price, but they still were ultimately successful in the end.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Out of that paragraph the only question/answer you have is what is F9?
I don't know, but given an afternoon and a short study I could do your job, can you say the same of mine?

I just hammered out a wall of text in response to this...but, ultimately, decided it wasn't worth it. The long and short is this: No one here is claiming they can do your job. However, the notion that you could walk in and, in an afternoon, be able to do ours is laughable. Every pilot who has ever sat down and spent an afternoon with me at my desk has walked away with the same view: "this is harder than I thought".

 

[N4niner206]

Read this again. YEAR-TO-DATE, all flying, all carriers, not matter race nor creed....

As of 03/21/13 YV and EV are tied for dead last in completion factor, out of 15 DOT reporting US Airlines in completion factor. 97.1%. Innarguable fact. I can't spell it out any more crystal clear for you.

And further, I dont believe there is need for me to site my source as I am going strictly off the US DOT Reports. If you care that much to recheck my figures, I'm sure you can do your own Google search for "US DOT Airline Statistics"

According to the DOT site YTD, Pinnacle is dead last (not YV or EV) with a cancellation rate of 3.88. (please note this is NOT posted as an attack on Pinnacle, but rather to show a discrepancy in your statement). YV has a YTD cancellation rate of 2.97 and OO is a bit better with a cancellation rate of 2.6. If you look at the entire year of 2012, YV had a LOWER cancellation rate (1.42%) than OO (1.81%). 2013 YV delay 16.65% of the time, which is slightly better than OO's 19.41% delay rate. Note that the tables I found only included 5 regionals. If you have a better source, I'm asking you to share it (perhaps a link or something?) so we can be on the same page.

You previously made a claim that Mesa was the dead bottom performer out of all of the regionals. I have yet to see you provide ANY evidence that supports this claim, and I suppose I fail to see where the performance numbers clearly show that OO has good operating numbers and YV does not. I'm actually LOOKING for any statistics that support your statement, and so far I don't find anything to back your claims.

HERE IS A LINK TO YOUR SOURCE
http://www.transtats.bts.gov/HomeDrillChart_Month.asp?URL_SelectMonth=1&URL_SelectYear=2013

So to pre-empt your next diversion, I DO realize that OO is about 4X the size as YV. That's the beauty of percentages ... it breaks it all down based on 'per 100' to make a comparison. Is it more demanding to operate a larger airline? Perhaps... but if thats the argument, why is United's cancellation rate 0.55% while Skywest is 2.6% YTD? Last I checked, United was a pretty large operation, too.

I guess I just don't see how you're drawing your conclusion. But I suppose its time to move on because at this point it seems that some of your own co-workers are having difficulty expressing confidence or respect for you. Perhaps I'm wasting my time.

 

[N4niner206]

I just hammered out a wall of text in response to this...but, ultimately, decided it wasn't worth it. The long and short is this: No one here is claiming they can do your job. However, the notion that you could walk in and, in an afternoon, be able to do ours is laughable. Every pilot who has ever sat down and spent an afternoon with me at my desk has walked away with the same view: "this is harder than I thought".

Uhhh... his "pushing buttons" statement was EXACTLY implying that. Unless the sarcasm was misread.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Every pilot who has ever sat down and spent an afternoon with me at my desk has walked away with the same view: "this is harder than I thought".

Sitting in a cubicle day in and out, is the nightmare. Everything you do is just part of my job, whereas my job encompasses far more than you will ever know, and won't until you enter the arena too. Without pilots, your job is meaningless, without dispatchers, my job becomes more work intensive, plain and simple. Planes have flown without dispatchers in the past, as well as without pilots, but the ones without pilots crash with alarming regularity, can't say the same as without dispatchers.

 

[WalterSobchak]

Sitting in a cubicle day in and out, is the nightmare. Everything you do is just part of my job, whereas my job encompasses far more than you will ever know, and won't until you enter the arena too. Without pilots, your job is meaningless, without dispatchers, my job becomes more work intensive, plain and simple. Planes have flown without dispatchers in the past, as well as without pilots, but the ones without pilots crash with alarming regularity, can't say the same as without dispatchers.

That's nice. You're completely missing the point, but OK.

I'm done here. I don't have to deal with you (and your pathetic little ego) on a daily basis anymore. Vaya con dios.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

That's nice. You're completely missing the point, but OK.

I'm done here. I don't have to deal with you (and your pathetic little ego) on a daily basis anymore. Vaya con dios.

You missed the point, the pilots who sat with you and said "that was harder than they thought" were referring to sitting in a cubicle, not the work, you did......
Thanks for playing.....quitter

 

[homerjdispatch]

You missed the point, the pilots who sat with you and said "that was harder than they thought" were referring to sitting in a cubicle, not the work, you did......
Thanks for playing.....quitter

Are you ever going to take up the offer to actually come to SGU and see what we do on a daily basis? Spend a few hours in here? Might give you a whole new perspective.... Oh, nevermind, you are to hiogh on that throne to come on down... But the offer is always open.