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[badog]

Ok ok

I'll bite on this dikspatch hook...
Sky Pest needs to worry about their contrac..... Oh wait, they don't have a
contract, their work rules get dictated to them by the latter day saint squad.
There ya go, how's that dikspatcher boy.
While you're at it, gimme some more fuel
b!tch.

 

[badog]

Duplicate post

 

[WalterSobchak]

I'll bite on this dikspatch hook...
Sky Pest needs to worry about their contrac..... Oh wait, they don't have a
contract, their work rules get dictated to them by the latter day saint squad.
There ya go, how's that dikspatcher boy.
While you're at it, gimme some more fuel
b!tch.

A++++ Would buy again!

It's been too long since the dikskratchers of FI last trolled the Regional Board (and, by "the regional board", I really mean PBRstreetgang). I forgot how fun this is.

 

[homerjdispatch]

I'll bite on this dikspatch hook...
Sky Pest needs to worry about their contrac..... Oh wait, they don't have a
contract, their work rules get dictated to them by the latter day saint squad.
There ya go, how's that dikspatcher boy.
While you're at it, gimme some more fuel
b!tch.

More fuel? What, landing with 1Hr plus isnt enough? Not confident enough in yourself to review the release and see if something needs to be changed? Give me more fuel, that will keep me safe.... Nope, its like a 4 wheel drive... It wont get you unstuck, just gets you in deeper... Kinda like PBRs boyfriend!

 

[paid4training]

I use Mesa to commute to work occasionally. Overall a much more reliable op than XJT, and the crew are usually quite professional. Who woulda thunk.

I'm not sure about today's recent numbers but I know in the past years xjt would cancel or delay A LOT of flts because of mother CAL's need to be on time for international connections etc. Reliability is more than just the completion or on time performance numbers, it was based on CAL's image and their official numbers for the legacies and xjt slots and departures.

 

[badog]

More fuel? What, landing with 1Hr plus isnt enough? Not confident enough in yourself to review the release and see if something needs to be changed? Give me more fuel, that will keep me safe.... Nope, its like a 4 wheel drive... It wont get you unstuck, just gets you in deeper... Kinda like PBRs boyfriend!

See it worked although getting under his skin is kinda like a ghost wipe after wings and beer. You're still just taking a sh!te so no cause for applause.
latter day saint squid.
btw, love how they changed the arbitrary pilot name in our cfm to joe smith.
How clever.
Losers

 

[WalterSobchak]

I'm not sure about today's recent numbers but I know in the past years xjt would cancel or delay A LOT of flts because of mother CAL's need to be on time for international connections etc.

In their defense, that happens to any contract carrier during a ground delay program. CTD times are owned by the mainline carrier and the sub-carrier's flights get subbed to the bottom of the list in order to eat up a sizable chunk of the program delay time, thus allowing the mainline carrier to operate virtually on-time during an average GDP (as long as the controllers can maintain the advertised arrival rate).

Once you have three or four of those regional flights each taking one for the team at an avg. delay of three to five hours, you cancel/reposition and go about your day. The mainline carrier gets to pad their on-time/cancellation stats at the expense of the sub-carrier, and the regional gets paid for a flight they otherwise might not if they were to cancel on their own. Obviously, it's a little more complicated than that, but you get the gist.

Every sub-carrier gets screwed at some point. SKW takes it in the shorts at SFO for UAL; BTA probably took it in the shorts at EWR for CAL. Mesa...well, it's easy to keep on truckin' when most of your flights are at LAS/PHX/LAX.

TMYK

 

[CFIT]

More fuel? What, landing with 1Hr plus isnt enough? Not confident enough in yourself to review the release and see if something needs to be changed? Give me more fuel, that will keep me safe.... Nope, its like a 4 wheel drive... It wont get you unstuck, just gets you in deeper... Kinda like PBRs boyfriend!

How much in pounds is an hour and how is it calculated?

And how much fuel is calculated for a simple VFR missed approach and return?

 

[XPOO]

How much in pounds is an hour and how is it calculated?

And how much fuel is calculated for a simple VFR missed approach and return?

Um, us lowly dispatchers are just button pushers. We dont know the answers to these things. We just play WoW all day and send releases when its convenient.

But to honestly answer your question, fuel is calculated a number of ways. I'm assuming you would like to know how OO plans? Burn per hour is based on factors such as weight, winds, engine type and engine degredation. Reserve is calculated at 45 mins burn at TOD. Hold fuel is calculated at burn at 10,000ft above destination. Alternate burn is calculated for missed approach, climb to altitude and burn-off to the alternate plus a padding of 400lbs. When you ask about a simple VFR missed approach and return that is where statistical contingency fuel comes in, which is never less than 15 mins burn based on the same criteria as hold fuel.

 

[XPOO]

See it worked although getting under his skin is kinda like a ghost wipe after wings and beer. You're still just taking a sh!te so no cause for applause.
latter day saint squid.
btw, love how they changed the arbitrary pilot name in our cfm to joe smith.
How clever.
Losers

Would you care to tell me just how badly my QOL and work rules are suffering because we don't have a contract? Or are you just trying to beat the only drum available to you?

Joe Cool? Everyday Joe? Joe the Plumber? John Doe? Smith? Jones? Anderson? Who cares? At least it wasn't something lame like Captain Kirk or Captain Morgan. "Ohh, look guys, Captain Morgan....teeheehee."

 

[PBRstreetgang]

More fuel? What, landing with 1Hr plus isnt enough? Not confident enough in yourself to review the release and see if something needs to be changed? Give me more fuel, that will keep me safe.... Nope, its like a 4 wheel drive... It wont get you unstuck, just gets you in deeper... Kinda like PBRs boyfriend!

Ahhhaaa,
Doesn't take much to get the peasants riled up. You dikskratchers are so insecure, that when called out, you feel the need to pile on together, you see, that right there is a gay reference too. It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic, a few sentences and the whole hen house starts clucking. Review the release, yeah so what? What I watch is the fuel in the tanks, when it gets too low because you screwed up, I divert and collect more money, I win, my blood pressure is lower, and when the final analysis comes to light, dikskratch screwed up in planning, and I saved the day. The bottom line is the best you have to offer is a 20 page document, I on the other hand, take the people who paid the money from A to B and sometimes via C, because you really aren't that good.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

A++++ Would buy again!

It's been too long since the dikskratchers of FI last trolled the Regional Board (and, by "the regional board", I really mean PBRstreetgang). I forgot how fun this is.

Wally,
By trolling you mean being a voyeur? Like you are in real life? You sit in a cubicle, making crap money because living in SGU is so bitchin? Just because your junk didn't drop, you sit on the sidelines and cheer, yay go team go! You think this, trolling, as you say is fun, you must lead a pathetic and meaningless life. Keep trying, you and xPooP can meet at the water cooler and teehee about how good you got those pilots!
Yeah whatever! I will enjoy a couple of more days off and you can go back too hitting F9 doing what you do best, sitting in a cubicle, because you didn't have what it takes to enter the arena and play the game.

 

[N4niner206]

Ok so I missed this one, but seriously, how hard is it for Mesa to complete their tiny schedule? But if Mesa wants a cookie for cancelling more flights in order to improve their on-time performance, here it is. Congrats!

Hmmm According to United SKYNet YTD statistics, OO's departure completion was 97.8 versus YV's departure completion 97.7. Not exactly an Earth-shattering difference.

Quit spouting out random "facts" and support your statements.

And I MUST say it sure is funny that when some people are proven wrong, they quickly dismiss the whole argument as being silly. I am simply presenting EVIDENCE that show how some people on here are full of B.S. and just repeat the rhetoric that is accepted as "fact".

That said I have absolutely NOTHING against anyone at any airline - just get tired of hearing people make claims about other airlines that cannot be substantiated.

Although I agree with the sentiment completely, its pretty sad to compare the Special Olympics to the regional industry. Handicapped people have no choice in the matter, and to compare them to regional airlines is just heartless ;-)

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Hmmm According to United SKYNet YTD statistics, OO's departure completion was 97.8 versus YV's departure completion 97.7. Not exactly an Earth-shattering difference.

Quit spouting out random "facts" and support your statements.

And I MUST say it sure is funny that when some people are proven wrong, they quickly dismiss the whole argument as being silly. I am simply presenting EVIDENCE that show how some people on here are full of B.S. and just repeat the rhetoric that is accepted as "fact".

That said I have absolutely NOTHING against anyone at any airline - just get tired of hearing people make claims about other airlines that cannot be substantiated.

Although I agree with the sentiment completely, its pretty sad to compare the Special Olympics to the regional industry. Handicapped people have no choice in the matter, and to compare them to regional airlines is just heartless ;-)

And what exactly, does this have to do with the fact that dikskratchers are the appendix of the industry?

 

[WalterSobchak]

You think this, trolling, as you say is fun, you must lead a pathetic and meaningless life.

Well, if anyone would know...

 

[XPOO]

Hmmm According to United SKYNet YTD statistics, OO's departure completion was 97.8 versus YV's departure completion 97.7. Not exactly an Earth-shattering difference.

Quit spouting out random "facts" and support your statements.

And I MUST say it sure is funny that when some people are proven wrong, they quickly dismiss the whole argument as being silly. I am simply presenting EVIDENCE that show how some people on here are full of B.S. and just repeat the rhetoric that is accepted as "fact".

That said I have absolutely NOTHING against anyone at any airline - just get tired of hearing people make claims about other airlines that cannot be substantiated.

Although I agree with the sentiment completely, its pretty sad to compare the Special Olympics to the regional industry. Handicapped people have no choice in the matter, and to compare them to regional airlines is just heartless ;-)

Read this again. YEAR-TO-DATE, all flying, all carriers, not matter race nor creed....

As of 03/21/13 YV and EV are tied for dead last in completion factor, out of 15 DOT reporting US Airlines in completion factor. 97.1%. Innarguable fact. I can't spell it out any more crystal clear for you.

And further, I dont believe there is need for me to site my source as I am going strictly off the US DOT Reports. If you care that much to recheck my figures, I'm sure you can do your own Google search for "US DOT Airline Statistics"

 

[XPOO]

And what exactly, does this have to do with the fact that dikskratchers are the appendix of the industry?

Wally's top out pay is higher than anything you'll ever personally experience in your lifetime. Sad huh? A dispatcher making more than a pilot?

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Well, if anyone would know...

I do, all I have to do is imagine what you do on a daily basis and I shudder at the thought......I would rather sell insurance.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Wally's top out pay is higher than anything you'll ever personally experience in your lifetime. Sad huh? A dispatcher making more than a pilot?

http://www.fltdisp.com/TheDispatchCareer/PayBenefits/tabid/59/Default.aspx


Regional carriers start their Aircraft Flight Dispatcher employees between $28,000 and $32,000 per year. Depending on longevity, salaries reach into the $90,000 range and higher for managers.
Major carriers start assistant flight dispatchers in the $40K range depending on experience. Most major air carrier's dispatch offices are union represented and salary caps have been negotiated beyond $100K. Many senior flight dispatchers make in excess of $125K when shift differentials and license pay are included.


Nice try.....someone will always make more than me, but the reality is , you sit in a cubicle and don't really do anything that I couldn't do my self, while I sit in an airplane and do what you can/couldn't do.
Thanks for playing....

 

[WalterSobchak]

I do, all I have to do is imagine what you do on a daily basis and I shudder at the thought......I would rather sell insurance.

It's so sweet that you care enough to think of what I do on a daily basis. Bless your heart.

I don't like discussing pay in detail. It's just not my style and it brings unwanted scrutiny. That said, without outing my carrier (I'm not in SGU, anymore, Toto), I will say that the info you posted is a bit outdated. New contracts and all. I do pretty well, especially in comparison to some of those OO pilot rates...and, I'm home every night.

I'm happy with my station in life. Can you say the same?