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  1. AV8OR

    Buffett Bites Back at NetJets Pilot Complaints

    I guess it's a larger question but seems pertinent to the discussion: How did we get to a place where the only cost associated with doing business that should remain fixed, go down and is apparently not subject to the same supply and demand forces is labor? I'm aware that labor can be greedy...
  2. AV8OR

    Buffett Bites Back at NetJets Pilot Complaints

    Wow. Whether one is pro Union or not, it's always interesting in a world where one is free to work for either a union or nonunion employer, that those that justify scabbing, do so while at the same time accepting the negotiated pay and benefits provided for them by the union.
  3. AV8OR

    Buffett Bites Back at NetJets Pilot Complaints

    Dude... Just cause you wanna act like a wage you pay is static doesn't make it so. I've seen wages go up and down over the years. The last 8 years companies were able to get pilots for less, now they cannot. When a college football coach is initially hired and produces and his demand goes up...
  4. AV8OR

    Buffett Bites Back at NetJets Pilot Complaints

    That's funny... I was under the impression is was all about supply and demand. High demand on oil with low quantities... Price goes up. High demand for qualified CEO's or College Football coaches... Price goes up. The shortage started burning it's way through the cargo carriers, has made its way...
  5. AV8OR

    Buffett Bites Back at NetJets Pilot Complaints

    And what you negotiate. Your skills and experience could be possibly worth more, but if poorly negotiated, you're working at a discount...and vice versa.
  7. AV8OR

    Buffett Bites Back at NetJets Pilot Complaints

    The fact that TMC has a union now won't be a player short term for not having extra lift. What WILL be a player in TMC not having extra lift is that TMC is so short crews right now that they can't cover their OWN lift! Guys are leaving here in DROVES. Had 6 FS training slots... 2 showed...
  8. AV8OR

    UPS Airbus down in Birmingham

    Looks like it was short. RIP
  9. AV8OR

    Delta Pilots don't check for frost on wings

    Agree 100%!! However, the guy who indicated you can't see frost on preflight "because the wing's too high"? Huh? Lot better ways to slam the poster than that. A DC-8 wing isn't exactly eye level either but I could tell if there was frost on the wing. I guarantee if somethin happens on take-off...
  10. AV8OR

    Airmed Pay

    Done several searches to no avail.... does anybody know what Airmed pays their Hawker Captains/Copilots?
  11. AV8OR

    Cost for de-icing

    As I said before... if anyone is interested in what we have send me a PM. Through the end of March, $100 gift card for any lead that turns into a sale. Right now we have product for Citation II, Lear 45 and Hawker 800XP is next.
  13. AV8OR

    Cost for de-icing

    That's not too far off the mark.
  14. AV8OR

    Cost for de-icing

    I'm 1/3 of the team.....But not that guy in the article. I'm WAAAY better lookin!....LOL
  15. AV8OR

    Aircraft De-icing Costs

    2dumb, You know this guy. Seemed like an odd response to what I thought was a legitimate post. Can you enlighten me? Seriously...i didn't understand.
  16. AV8OR

    Aircraft De-icing Costs

    Thanks for all the great responses folks. Mr/MS Moderator, hopefully this next statement is not a violation of policy. If so just delete it. The reason for the question I placed was that I work for a company that has developed an safe, inexpensive, aircraft specific, solution for preventing...
  17. AV8OR

    Cost for de-icing

    One other thing....the reason for the posting was to get an idea what costs folks were paying for their de-icing.
  19. AV8OR

    Cost for de-icing

    Thanks for all the great responses folks. Mr/MS Moderator, hopefully this next statement is not a violation of policy. If so just delete it. The reason for the question I placed was that I work for a company that has developed an safe, inexpensive, aircraft specific, solution for preventing...
  20. AV8OR

    Cost for de-icing

    I guess I didn't think about how the fractional side just gets it billed to the company. I have the same question posted on the corporate forum....thanks for the responses.
  21. AV8OR

    Aircraft De-icing Costs

    Thanks guys......keep em coming!
  22. AV8OR

    Cost for de-icing

    Just a quick note on the initial responses: Totally agree with the "it doesn't matter what it costs" responses! Safety first for sure! Just trying to get a feel for the range of cost for various de-icing events....and not to make a case against de-icing. Clean and safe no matter the...
  23. AV8OR

    Cost for de-icing

    I am trying to compile some data on aircraft de-icing costs: Please post what your minimum and maximum costs have been to de-ice your aircraft this year, type of aircraft, whether it was wings and tail or total de-ice, airport de-ice took place, FBO used and if you remember, the amount of time...
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