NJA TA in principal reached!!!

[208starcheck]

Insider info.

- Pay raises
- G4 dude displaced to Phenom.

All excellent news.

 

[Semore Butts]

Yep, just heard

We'll see. Ink is still wet.

 

[gutshotdraw]

As with all things: Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

 

[OPECJet]

As with all things: Hope for the best, plan for the worst.

That's the deal.

G4, you're welcome. Maybe.....

 

[Diesel]

Gutshot you in NYC?

 

[gutshotdraw]

Yup.

Hope to see you at the debrief downtown in the afternoon.

 

[realityman]

Don't put away your walking shoes just yet. I have a bad feeling about this.

 

[OPECJet]

Don't put away your walking shoes just yet. I have a bad feeling about this.

Maybe. It'll be interesting to see who got cornholed. Hope it wasn't us.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Don't put away your walking shoes just yet. I have a bad feeling about this.

Your doubt is shared and not at all unfounded.

For the time being, I'm from Missouri: Show Me.

 

[el raton]

You will get to vote to either accept or reject it, right?

 

[Ludicrous Speed]

Meanwhile (back at Flight Options), a panicked Uncle Kenn slips on his ruby red slippers and prepares to tell the pilots once again, “We’re not NetJets, we’re not NetJets” in 5, 4, 3..........

 

[gutshotdraw]

You will get to vote to either accept or reject it, right?

Yup.

This just an agreement in principle.

They have to clean up the language and finish writing a few sections before they can even call it a Tentative Agreement.

Then the union will have to develop the "educational materials" and interpretive transcripts before releasing everything to the pilots.

Then there has to be a period of time for the pilots to digest it all.

Then voting can begin (which takes WAY TOO LONG in my opinion).

IF the pilots actually ratify the agreement (not a lock by ANY stretch of the imagination), I expect date of signing to be right around Christmas.

 

[Praetorian]

Yup.

This just an agreement in principle.

They have to clean up the language and finish writing a few sections before they can even call it a Tentative Agreement.

Then the union will have to develop the "educational materials" and interpretive transcripts before releasing everything to the pilots.

Then there has to be a period of time for the pilots to digest it all.

Then voting can begin (which takes WAY TOO LONG in my opinion).

IF the pilots actually ratify the agreement (not a lock by ANY stretch of the imagination), I expect date of signing to be right around Christmas.

I'll be interested to see if this thing comes out with an enforcement from your E-board.

 

[wanttofly]

Said they would not put anything out that they wouldn't endorse.

 

[el raton]

Yup.

This just an agreement in principle.

They have to clean up the language and finish writing a few sections before they can even call it a Tentative Agreement.

Then the union will have to develop the "educational materials" and interpretive transcripts before releasing everything to the pilots.

Then there has to be a period of time for the pilots to digest it all.

Then voting can begin (which takes WAY TOO LONG in my opinion).

IF the pilots actually ratify the agreement (not a lock by ANY stretch of the imagination), I expect date of signing to be right around Christmas.

Thank you! Hope it's everything you asked for.

 

[T-1GUY]

There was no asking. Demand through solidarity to achieve goals is more like it. **

** This statement does not pertain to a certain someone with his head in the sand.

 

[acaTerry]

Then voting can begin (which takes WAY TOO LONG in my opinion).

Its still faster than bid results.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Its still faster than bid results.

LOL

You're just desperate to get away from flying with me again as fast as you can so it SEEMS like your bid is taking forever...

 

[Schrode]

Latest info on the coming TA: Better gains than 2005/2007 contract, healthcare remains same (funded by company), COLA added, extend FO pay scales, bonuses based on months of service (no penalty for furlough time).

That is all I know for now. Waiting to read the whole document.

 

[realityman]

Latest info on the coming TA: Better gains than 2005/2007 contract,

This would be something to truly cheer about. Man, I hope you're right.

I'll be interested to see what the fixes re for seniority too. I know everyone is especially focused on financial stuff, but it's time the displacement language was fixed as well as the SDP award process and a few other seniority inversion issues.

Believe it or not, I don't want anyone to lose their present seat. Yeah, G4 can stay where he is. But when the GV's (his current ride) start going away, people need to be displaced to where their seniority is appropriate.

We shall see.

 

[realityman]

Latest info on the coming TA: Better gains than 2005/2007 contract, healthcare remains same (funded by company), COLA added, extend FO pay scales, bonuses based on months of service (no penalty for furlough time).

That is all I know for now. Waiting to read the whole document.

Oh, and I hope retirement is greatly improved!

 

[Helmsalee]

Prediction! G4 will be on here soon saying that he hopes that the gains don't make the company noncompetitive. He will say the contract will sink NJ. Any bets on how long before that shows up?
Helm

 

[imacdog]

He'll also say the TA had nothing to do with our public-facing campaign.

 

[realityman]

He'll also say the TA had nothing to do with our public-facing campaign.

True. It was probably a letter from AJ to WB that got us the TA.

 

[Diesel]

True. It was probably a letter from AJ to WB that got us the TA.

Lol now your sounding like the guy I flew with that was amazed that the union thought they had anything to do with getting hansel fired. lol

 

[Imissmypilot]

I'll be interested to see if this thing comes out with an enforcement from your E-board.

Said they would not put anything out that they wouldn't endorse.

Unless what they're quietly endorsing is a move towards a strike,, right?

I'm hoping you guys got everything you want and then some. Unlike the poster above, what little I've heard is unimpressive but admittedly it's still all rumor. So, in light of that possibility, let's just play devils advocate for a minute.

If it's a real $hit sandwich and the negotiations weren't going anywhere, wouldn't it be a precursor move to an effective strike to just put out something vanilla and have a resounding NO! vote on the TA?

What are the bylaws and/or federal regs regarding strikes? Aren't there some dominoes that have to fall first? Maybe they're just taking care of the dominoes.

Not trying to stir the pot, just honestly asking as one who's not offended by the concept of choking the golden goose til it lays it's egg.

 

[imacdog]

I'm willing to bet there's a reason that the union decided to not press forward with the NYC picket. We'll see when the actual details come out.

 

[acaTerry]

LOL

You're just desperate to get away from flying with me again as fast as you can so it SEEMS like your bid is taking forever...

Nah I gotta fly with you enough to butter up some free high-powered range time first, then you'll have served your purpose.
Seriously though, bringing my jerky next time. You'll piss on Jack Link.

 

[av8trinabarrel]

Lets hope he found the nearest rock and crawled back under it after getting Pedro's email. Excellent work ladies/gents. Sure makes going out for 7 tomorrow a little more bearable!!!

 

[acaTerry]

He'll also say the TA had nothing to do with our public-facing campaign.

I'm glad y'alls furlough doesn't count against your service time for the bonus. That was an unexpected plus.