SWA speed control in ATL

[Ty Webb]

Maybe Ty Web does not think LAX is busy airport .


Everything out of his mouth is AT this , AT that, AT,AT,AT


He must be a real joy to fly with .

Yeah, that's it.

when I want any sh!t outta you, I'll squeeze your neck. :laugh:

 

[gt1900]

I can't believe this is already 5 pages, well maybe 4 pages of that gt1900 doosh and a page full of everyone else. Fock, it's Atlanta, enough said. uke:

I can't believe it's a thread period! I thought we all knew how to fly airplanes at this point in our careers! And it's NOT just Atlanta! We can figure out how to line up at the right runway in BWI either!!

 

[canyonblue]

I can't believe it's a thread period! I thought we all knew how to fly airplanes at this point in our careers! And it's NOT just Atlanta! We can figure out how to line up at the right runway in BWI either!!

All I can say is go golfing or get a girlfriend, there is more to life than flying. At your rate your not going to pass a medical with high blood pressure. Quit the stressfest man, you seem like a guy who just got his first job at a regional and is overwhelmed by the operation. Work work work work Atlanta work work work work ATC work work work work hotspots.

 

[Chest Rockwell]

"Expect short approach" ISNT a clearance, but I'm sure you knew that! You will never get cleared for a short approach in ATL, and their terminology is 100% accurate! Most pilots would understand what that means when your abeam the field at 12,000 ft with 11,000ft to lose, and about 23 miles to do it. I'm now convinced that ATC knows how our airplanes perform better than we do. Or I should say, they know how they perform with other airlines operating them. Believe it or not, ATC knows that at 12,000ft, with 11,000ft to lose, it's a heck of a lot more than a 3 degree decent with a 10 mile final when your abeam the field. IE: "We are going to give you a decent well in excess of a standard 3 degree decent, and we expect you to be able to do it." Unfortunately, we have proven over and over again that we can not. BTW, ATC will almost never release you for a visual in ATL until they have given you the 30 degree or less intercept to join final. Their clearances are 100% by the book!

When you get violated for speed deviation, let me know who's "lap" it's in! Your not in El Paso anymore!

You are correct and I should have stated "expected clearance."

But,

10-12 mile final is not a short approach. If they used "expect a 10-12 final" or "join final at xyz." Be clear about what you want and most will comply, that is all.

 

[Freebrd]

I never heard of a new Delta or AirTran first officer being confused about the clearance. .

Sooo, you surveyed every new FO at AT and Deltah....commendable.

 

[gt1900]

All I can say is go golfing or get a girlfriend, there is more to life than flying. At your rate your not going to pass a medical with high blood pressure. Quit the stressfest man, you seem like a guy who just got his first job at a regional and is overwhelmed by the operation. Work work work work Atlanta work work work work ATC work work work work hotspots.

Stress test? I type this with a beer in one hand, a fishing pole in the other, while sitting on the beach! Believe me, I'm not stressed!! If you notice, I almost never post on the site either, but I couldn't let this one pass. I have seen the way guys operate planes at SWA, and have several friends who are controllers anywhere from ATL to LAX, I know it's not just ATL that we screw up. The only difference is other controllers have learned how messed up we fly the airplanes and they have adapted, ATL is still learning to adapt. BTW. Next time you go into LAX notice the subtle difference in the clearances SWA guys get and other airlines get..... I'm going to go back to drinking and fishing now! And I'll let you Koo Aid drinkers continue to think we are the BEST of the BEST at everything we do... Oh ya, if you were the guy who couldn't seem to find the centerline in ATL the other day while they were shooting PRM's, and screwing stuff up for several other airlines, what were you doing???

I'm out! Peace!!!

 

[canyonblue]

Stress test? I type this with a beer in one hand, a fishing pole in the other, while sitting on the beach! Believe me, I'm not stressed!!!

No, you really have some issue that you need to deal with and beer isn't going to help you. You need more than a vacation, you need a long term leave. I've flown with many ex AAI pilots and none are as weird as you. Look at your posts dude, a psychologist would make a good living off you. I suspect it's more than just ATC issues that are troubling you, it's pretty apparent to anyone who's sane.

 

[madjack]

They love us in LAX

 

[pork]

1. I really don't care who loves us or hates us.
2. Atlanta? One more dot on the map. Who cares?
3. They do their job, I do mine.

 

[dicko]

Stress test? I type this with a beer in one hand, a fishing pole in the other, while sitting on the beach!

I'm out! Peace!!!

Never argue with a man with three hands. Never.

 

[outerlimits]

Never argue with a man with three hands. Never.

Or bend over for s bar of soap,with 3 legs

 

[Kharma Police]

Yet another memo from the company regarding this with threats of violations. What the puck is wrong with you guys?

 

[madjack]

Nothing

 

[fletch717]

when I flew my F teen we didn't take orders from approach, we told approach what we are going to do. Look at my ring, do you know who I am?

 

[redflyer65]

'I'm kind of a big deal'